Van Marwijk wants to talk Oranje, fans don’t…

I forgot to mention Winjaldum..

Posted from  India

@alex, why player like labyad choose morroco over netherlands, logically he is dutch, and netherlands is a european advance country and always a candidate to gain trophies,so why he choose not to play for netherlands…??

What about this team for the future:(4-3-3 of course)

……………Steks…………….

.. VDW…Bruma/De vrij..Douglas..Pieters/Aanholt……

..Jozefzoon….Ozyakup……….Elia/Kishna/Van velzen.

…..Van Wolfy….Castaignos……Nadir Cifti….

Posted from  India

I just realized that I haven’t included any holding midfielder in my squad..

Blind,Bonevacia,Fer should be there as well,but how do I fit them in the starting 11????

Posted from  India

Jad

I think the main reason is,they’re scared of never making it to the starting 11 of Oranje.Playing for Morocco guarantees them starting berths.

Posted from  India

Anybody knows the players list for the games against Moldavia and Sweden??

Can you post it here please?

Please visit

http://www.thebid.org/?lang=es

Support Netherlands!

Football and politics:

Look this amazing video!

Is the Bolivia´s “president” (in fact is a dictator, as my “president” Chavez is) playing football.

This video demonstrates how cowards these kinds of people are.

Look how this COUNTRY PRESIDENT kick´s the opponent in his balls, and don’t receive a yellow or red card..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tan2yK_p03o

just 30 seg..

Ciftci, Özyakup, Bouy, Barazite, Koc, Maguir, Maher, Martins Indi, Castaignos, V.Overbeek, Kongolo, O.John, Isoufi, Cabral, perhaps David are eligible for teams from Turkey, Morocco, Cape Verdia, Portugal, France, Angola, Surinam, Afghanistan, Liberia and Ireland, and that’s not the last of them.

Just bothers me that there is really poaching going on from other national teams…

Posted from  Netherlands

yah specially the one who is poaching is dutch too

I don’t remember if anyone posted this before, but here is the Swedish 20-man squad against Oranje for those interested:

http://www.footbo.com/Teams/Sweden/Squad

Maybe the irruption of Geert Wilders in the dutch politics has caused this, I dont know.

Anyway, this topic has vital relevance I think. Its about the dutch national team future that we are talking about, and I will show you why.

The Netherlands under 16

1. Blij
2. Hoogendorp (American roots)
3. Walsh
4. Ake (American roots)
5 Cicek (Turk)
6. Haye
7. Sanoh (Ivory Coast)
8. Trindade (Angola)
9 Van den Boomen
1o. Mahmoed (Irak)
11. Kishna (Republic of India)

Netherlands under 17:

1. De Jong
2. Ramlal (Indonesie)
3. Disveld
4. Rekik (Morocco)
5. Willems (American roots)
6. Horsten
7. Van Oberveek (Angola)
8. Ebecilio (American roots)
9. Toorenburg
10. Tannane (Morocco)
11. Memphis Depay (I dont Know)

Netherlands under 18

1. Verhulst
2. Dengering
3. Van Huygevoort
4. Denswill (American roots)
5. Dijks
6. Maher (Morocco)
7. Labyad (Morocco)
8. Gurkan (Davids) (Turk)
9. Locadia (American roots)
10. Boay (Morocco)
11. Manu (American roots)

Netherlands under 19:

1. Han (American roots)
2. Ligeon (American roots)
3. De Vrij
4. Martins Indi (Cape Verde, Portugal)
5 Wijnaldum (American roots)
6 Ozyakup (Turk)
7 Isoufi/Lukoki/Ciftci (Afghanistan/Congo/Turk)
8. Rashid (Irak)
9. Castaignos (France, Italian, Cape Verde)
10 van Ginkel
11. John (Liberia)

If you want you can check this names in the Holland FA (Onsoranje.nl)
- Dutch: 14
- foreigners roots: 30

As you can see the future of the Netherland soccer team could be disastrous after the Robben, Sneijder generation, if the Knvb dont take seriusly this topic. Maybe the prohibition of two passports can be the solution.

Can Jan please remove this post of Keko as soon as possible, we don’t want to give other foreign lurkers ideas…. lol

Posted from  Netherlands

Hey Tiju, there is an Indian on Keko’s list (U-16’s) Good stuff!! Maybe they finally have started listening to you.

I think most of the players who have real potential for oranje but also could play for countries like India, Cape Verde, Angola etc. will always try for oranje first and not switch before they would absolutely and defenitaly know they have no shot in oranje.. But the players with Moroccan, Turkish, French, Italian and other european roots(Bosnian and Serbian often also feel strongest) where the teams actually have potential… it’s risky.
Depay is I thought of Indian roots.
But anyways, the problem with the talented players is mostly with the countries that have set dual nationality, especially Turkey and Morocco. It gives these guy an artificial link with the country and does nothing but bring money into Morocco, most of the guys only go on holidays there, nothing else..In Morocco itself though, these “foreigners” are not looked upon too well..they’re raised in a very different environment.. I personally find dual nationality ridiculous, every other person has to give up their old nationality when they become citizens of another country. Why don’t they, if we would have done that, we could select all kinds of players from America, Canada, Australia, South-Africa etc.

If there’s one thing that EU should try to get done, than it’s getting rid of dual nationality/passports.

Posted from  Netherlands

some of the Swedish players have been talking alot of smack lately. After reading their 20man squad, i think they better STFU….

also interesting to see so many American roots in the youth squads.

Posted from  United States

Actually Finn.. let’s say Kishna is Dutch, I mean, putting people into boxes because they had some ancestors in other countries will not help them want to play for oranje or feel Dutch think positive, lol

Posted from  Netherlands

Based on the latest training period for the dutch team today the starting 11 of moldova game look as follows :

Steke
VDW Heitinga Mathijsen pieters
….. Van Bommel…..VDV
Kuijt….. Sneijder…..Affelay
Huntelaar

BTW Bert has been busy and on a meeting of coaches he suggested to be able to use 4 substitutes, at least in qualification matches and have all european competitions run at the same time instead of summer and winter competitions… Apparently, Bluffer Bert got a lot of positive response from the other (national) coaches…they liked his ideas it seems..

Posted from  Netherlands

I want affelay to score against moldova.

@Alex, its not bad ideas at all

i’d love to see a hakka chinese in the youth squad some day…

Posted from  United States

BTW Should Douglas become Dutch, whe should give him a Dutch name.
His name is Douglas Franco Teixeira.
Douglas is fine, Franco=Frank/Franciscus, Teixeira can be from Portuguese/Spanish word for a type of Taxus plant/tree called Teixo. In Dutch that’s the Venijnboom.
So in either order
Douglas Frank(Franciscus) Venijn haha, or
Frank(Franciscus)Venijn Douglas

Posted from  Netherlands

some other suggestions ??

Posted from  Netherlands

@Jalepinho: When I said American roots, I mean Surinamese or Antillian roots, not United States of North America

@ Alex and others about the nature of dual citizenship

I agree on many points with you. Certainly, the Italians love that idea, having no “foreigners” in their national team, but many Italians are very nationalistic in their views, u see where i’m getting at? I’m not suggesting that we should mimic the Italians, just saying that we should somehow develop and actually keep players in domestic leagues.