Comments on: Patient Oranje secures steady win: 2-0

By: bobotoh

bobotoh — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:36:14 +0000

Halo Carlos in Singapore, do you know Indonesian language or Malaysian language? . Senang jumpa lagi .

Thanks for your information about the formation. Looking at the players that Holland have, there’re too many good players. If Holland want to play with 4-2-3-1, the players like Sneijder or Van Persie cannot play. Or, Holland should play another formation.

By: andrew

andrew — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:34:55 +0000

Carlos, Jan, Goose;

Many thanks for the warm welcome. Great site you have here.

Agree with Goose that Sneijder is the guy who can make the team move. Saw both the Macedonia and Iceland games, and have seen just about all the Real Madrid games this year (Gol TV in the States) Van de Vaart looks like he has magic in his foot; from nothing he’ll conjure up a flick or a touch and send the goal scorers on their way, and the man can score (always has been able to—from scramblers goals to beauties). But when Sneijder came on at the end of the Real Madrid game a couple of weeks ago, and at the end of the Iceland game, the difference in tempo and forward drive was noticeable. He’s just relentess in pushing the team forward. Nice to have them both. Can’t say about Van Persie’s ego; have heard comments of the like since he was at Feyenoord, but since there is an ocean between us, I don’t get the daily coverage. Guy is really a talent, though.

By: goose

goose — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:03:41 +0000

@Andrew; interesting comment .. i think vPersie is just not a real striker, hes more a man outside the box ..Huntelaar should be compared with vNistelrooy who also is very slow and has average football skills, BUT both just have a nose for goal (like Gerd Muller, prob. the best striker ever)
i do agree that at the moment Huntelaar is out of form (he hasnt played well in the dutch league either) and vMarwijk could give vPersie a go (dont think he will tough)
the most important thing for vPersie to learn is that he ISNT the main man in Oranje, Sneijder is..once he accepts that things will prob. work out and hell find his place in the team…still think his ego is a problem

By: dirk v.d. Berg

dirk v.d. Berg — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:35:18 +0000

—————–van der sar——————-
–marcellis—ooijer—mathijsen—van bronkhorst
——–van bommel———–de zeeuw———-
——————sneijder———————-
—van der vaart—-huntelaar——–van persie

Basically a 4-3-3, just emphasizing that de Zeeuw, and van Bommel stay back.

By: Jan

Jan — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:01:24 +0000

A few bears you mean ?

By: finnster01

finnster01 — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:54:31 +0000

@Jan: Think (and hope) it is real. However, I am cautious, as we have several large financial firms reporting earnings this week. I believe with the exception of one time write-offs, it should not be too bad. It is the credit that is killing (or lack of), not the basic banking operations. Especially now that the bailout plan seems to have gotten some more meat on the bones and details are out, it should bounce positive. So if we close out this week on a high, we may have hit the bottom. But the market is really volatile. Lower oil prices have helped keep it from completely tanking.

Still think there will a lot of more consolidation to come in the financial industry, globally. e.g. Don’t think Morgan Stanley will survive in it’s current form. However, if a solid week can be put together on the Street, most of the jitters may be gone.

Actually Carlos’ advice on getting some blue chip for people who do not need the cash for the next 3 years is a very decent advice.

I see Asia is up in a big way today, Europe doing good, so I expect we in NY will have another good day. Which we have not had in two weeks.

A few people even had a few beers yesterday. Been a long time since that happened…

By: Jan

Jan — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:19:24 +0000

I don’t know… Norway will play with two strikers at the most. So you need Ooijer and Marcellis to mark them, with Van Bommel as the free man. Then there’s Gio on the left, pushing Robben inside (which he likes).

De Zeeuw is the lock on the door in midfield and Afellay and Sneijder will have to play smart and look for the midfielders coming through.

Put the pressure on Norway, force them to make mistakes.

That would be my thing.

Van Hanegem said after the Iceland game: if you’re really much better than the opponent, you have the obligation to show it to the fans!

By: tiju

tiju — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:42:06 +0000

@jan u r so offencive with afaleey and bommel

By: Jan

Jan — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:11:57 +0000

Hi Andrew, welcome aboard and keep coming back ok?

I like your line up. Not a big hunter fan myself. Raf and Robin upfront could be sensational! I’d like to see Bommel drop back a line, so we can have Afellay in midfield… yummie!

Finn: dead cat bounce?

By: Carlos

Carlos — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:00:05 +0000

Bobotoh are you talking about the Match against Iceland ? 4-2-3-1
Sar
Marcellis Ooier Mathijsen Gio
vBommel deJong (de Zeeuw 14m)
Kuyt vdV (Sneijder 80m) Babel(Affelay 65m)
Hunter

Jumpa Lagi