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I’m sorry guys, I’m simply not as interested in the off-season…

The transfer rumors are driving me nuts. Ajax winning 6-0 against Epe, who cares!

Tough talk by Wenger. Fabregas wants to go to Barca. Malaga wants to sign Sneijder.

It’s all too much.

So I focus on re-hashing cool old Oranje posts and I give more attention to other work. And man, I’m busy. I don’t think it’s funny anymore.

But the Feyenoord news prompted me to be a bit current in these posts. Crap! Players who haven’t played 30 games in the Eredivisie now control the fate of Mario Been?!?!?! Crap.

Feyenoord’s management didn’t agree with Been’s exit, but hey…the players are in charge, apparently.

It’s too bad. I guess the situation couldn’t be salvaged. Been and Feyenoord appeared to be the ideal combination ( Been grew up at Feyenoord as a player, from youngster till playmaker in the first team and Mario was Van Marwijk’s assistant winning the European Cup).

Ron Vlaar, Leroy Fer, Karim El Ahmadi and Diego Biseswar voted against Mario, amongst others. It was getting too hard for the group to accept their coach and the names of Van Hanegem, Van Gaal and Ten Cate are whispered in Rotterdam.

Assistant Leon Vlemmings will take charge for now and Feyenoord won the next warm up game with 11-0. “I will hold on to Mario’s vision. I spoke to him a number of times since his exit and I have to say, we didn’t see this coming. It’s amazing. I did consider going as well, but Mario implored me to stay. Feyenoord needs to move ahead.”

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Former assistant Leon Vlemmings on the bench

Former Feyenoord prospect Evander Sno makes a move from Ajax to Genua in the Serie A. Gattuso appears to be the go-between. The AC Milan midfielder remembered the midfielder when he played for Celtic against AC Mian and was man of the match.
Gattuso and Sno kept in touch after that game and when the Ajax player was struck by a heart attack, the Italian destroyer visited him. When he realised that not a lot of clubs would want to take the risk with Sno, he decided to give the skilled player some support. When Gattuso met the Genua chairman on holiday, he mentioned Sno and his situation. Not much later, Genua contacted Ajax and the deal was done.

Wim Rijsbergen was a debutant in Feyenoord 1. A young bloke, who came to the big smoke from PEC Zwolle,

Rijsbergen didn’t have any ambitions to become an Oranje starter. Barry Hulshoff was the designated center back, PSV’s Pleun Strik could play in that position and of course one Aad Mansveld or one Rinus Israel were also in front of Rijsbergen in the hierarchy. Wim Rijsbergen made his debut in Oranje in the last friendly (against Romania) right before the WC.

“I went to Germany with the idea of getting a nice tan on the bench,” Rijsbergen would later say. ” I sincerely hoped to maybe get some minutes of glory, you know… Nothing more… I had set my sights on the EC1976. I wanted to be a starter then and Germany for me was a warm up.”

It would go a tad differently. Wim Rijsbergen started on June 15 against Uruguay and would play until the finals against West Germany. “My advantage was that Feyenoord had played a top season that year. We won the title and the EUFA Cup. Cor van der Hart was Michels’ assistant at the WC and he was Feyenoord scout as well. He knew me well. He convinced Michels to take me along.”

Rijsbergen: “I think the total football concept was also in my benefit. Michels wanted a libero who would engage on midfield whenever possible. So he needed a focused man marker with speed. I was young and totally convinced of my strengths and weaknesses. I’d never try to take on an opponent. I played simple. Always. With Mansveld or Drost in the team, you’d need someone like me to cover for them. When Israel and Hulshof got injured, Michels knew he needed to fix the problem. When all the afore mentioned players seemed unavailable, Michels – without a doubt helped by Cruyff – picked Haan for the libero role and needed three strong and tough defenders to compensate. I was one of those butchers, haha… Krol and Suurbier were so-called securities and both were experienced. So Michels took the gamble with me.”

Although Rijsbergen became one of the stars, he’d never talk to Michels and Michels would never talk to him. “When we passed ways, he’d say “hello” or “bye”. That’s all. He was very simple in his approach. He’d tell me during tactical sessions: “Wim, you take care of striker so and so…”. That was it. He had the power to see which types would fit well together. I knew my limitations. Krol and Suurbier would power down the channels, because Jansen, Nees and myself would take over their spots. I would never do anything silly on the pitch. Michels also knew when to allow for some relaxation. He was a hard taskmaster, but sometimes he’d allow us to party till late and he would be there to drink a beer or to belt out some typical Amsterdam/Jordaan song…”

The hierarchy in the group was clear. “Michels was the general, but Cruyff was the leader. Michels wouldn’t say much, he’d observe. Cruyff did the talking and Van Hanegem was the sergeant. The drill sergeant, you know. He’d have a go at you when you screwed up. At training, he made grown players cry. I sometimes got so fed up with that and asked him many a time: you don’t like me, do you? And he’d always smile and say: I yell at you because I like you! If I don’t yell at you, then you’re in trouble. I give you my energy and therefore I have faith in you.”

“We didn’t have much trouble in the group stages. We played our football against Uruguay, Sweden and Bulgaria and we were never tested. Sweden was a tough customer, but only in defense. I can’t remember breaking a sweat against them. We were surprised, really, when we sailed through the group. I don’t think we realized then how good we were. These days, you can see any nation play any game on tv if you want. Back then, I’d never seen Uruguay play other than on the WC’s before.
Argentina wasn’t hard either. They were tough in the duels, but as a football team, they were an easy opponent. We knew we had to raise our game a bit against Brazil. They weren’t as good as in 1970 but their base skills are so good… The only problem with them was: they sometimes forgot to score and kill off the game and they weren’t good losers, haha… They won so many games, that when we put them under pressure, they responded weirdly. But, I can see that game in my mind’s eye and it was not an easy game.”

It was a battle, really. Johan Neeskens even lost his conscience for awhile after receiving a hit in the head my Mario Marinho and Pereira was red carded for a horrible challenge on the same Neeskens. “Neeskens’ jersey was red with blood. We played in white and it looked really dramatic. It was a tough game. We needed a draw to reach the finals, and when we were 1-0 up, Michels said: attack is the best defense. So every ball they had, we needed to win back as soon as possible. You know how Johan thinks… If we have the ball, they can’t score… So Nees was running like a bull all the time, having a go at them. They certainly punished him and hurt him but Nees wasn’t that sweet himself, hahahaa… Brazil couldn’t win with football so they used other means, but our skill won from their force.”

The finals then… West Germany. Neeskens scores in the first minute. “I think Nees should have missed that. That early goal was the problem for us. I could sense a hesitation in the team. Some players wanted to defend the 1-0, others wanted to go for the kill. Van Hanegem, Cruyff, Rep, Neeskens, they wanted to humiliate the Germans, but Jansen, Krol, myself and Rensenbrink wanted to pace the game and play possession. Rensenbrink wasn’t fit at all. Look back and you’ll see we played with ten men only. Later I heard that Robbie just signed a deal with Puma and that he’d get an enormous amount if he’d play the finals. He told Michels he was recovered from the knock he received against Brazil. I don’t hold it against him and no one does. Every player wants to play that game – it’s a bloody WC finals! – and sometimes the adrenaline helps you to put an injury to rest. Temporarily.
I also heard later that Piet Keizer was furious that Michels brought Van der Kerkhof for Rensenbrink… But I don’t know, I was replaced with an injury myself… At the time, you feel this is the highpoint of your career, but since we lost I can only say it was the low end for me…”

At the WC2006, Wim Rijsbergen was Leo Beenhakker’s assistant for Trinidad and Tobago. “That was cool to experience. It was fun to hang out with Beckenbauer again. We played together in New York and had a good relationship there, but we lost contact.”

Rijsbergen played for Bastia, New York Cosmos, Helmond Sport and FC Utrecht after leaving Feyenoord.

As a coach, he worked for Ajax (youth), FC Groningen, Volendam and several international clubs. He is now retired.


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By Rami | July 16th, 2011 at 2:27 am
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/462/netherlands/2011/07/15/2575934/ronald-koeman-expresses-interest-in-vacant-feyenoord

actually the right question would be: could it get any worse for Feyenoord?

By ferenc | July 16th, 2011 at 4:54 am
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ronald koeman was one of my favourite players,probably the best central midfielder i have ever seen,i really enjoyed to watch him,but as a coach i wouldn’t like to see him sitting on barca’s bench… he started well at ajax,but after 1-2 successfull years he made bad and worse decisions. psv and especially valencia could talk about his coaching talent. i hope for feyenoord they will find someone else. i say this as a big koeman fan (but not koeman,the coach). i don’t understand why is he obsessed with this profession… he’s a legend and with every team he coaches he destruct his legend status. a little bit like marco van basten…

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By ferenc | July 16th, 2011 at 4:55 am
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sorry,i mean best central defender, of course

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By Agragami | July 16th, 2011 at 9:40 am
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Off topic and in all reverence to Ferenc, this Cesc Barca Arsenal saga has begun to get on the nerves. Though Barca is my favourite, I have come to despise the tactics it has adopted nowadays.

Come on, why don’t Barca just pay the money and get Cesc instead of adopting such lowly tactics. Xavi says Cesc is suffering, some Mayor says he is kidnapped, What the fuck !

If they all are so concerned indeed want to rescue him, pay up the 40 million and get him. If the club is running low, let the city pool in for the sake of their most beloved CESC.

End of the shitty affair for once and for all.

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By Paul | July 16th, 2011 at 10:09 am
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Check this out, there is a team in the USL – united soccer league in us, called the Dayton Dutch Lions…team is apparently supported by FC Twente and has a lot of Dutch connections…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Dutch_Lions

By Miguel Rosado | July 16th, 2011 at 11:23 am
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@Agragami: I agree with you. Fabregas signed a contract and it’s very common they (Arsenal) want to get money from his sell. He is not kidnapped and if he is sad well it’s his fault!!! if he didn’t want to stay in London he shouldn’t have signed for a long period. Just my opinion.

By Miguel Rosado | July 16th, 2011 at 11:50 am
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What about Castaignos? he seems like a very good prospect…but I see there’e not a lot of talk about him even when he signed for Inter!!!.

By van den Berg | July 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
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Hilarious with the Cesc Barca saga.

I have this mental picture of the poor boy, on his way home from training one day, being scooped up in a burlap sack by Wenger the kidnapper. Shipped up to London in a boxcar, spending the last few years locked in a closet. Only let out on matchdays, he had to play with an immobilizing collar around his ankle, just in case the suffering got to be to much to bear, and he tried to escape.

By Jalepinho | July 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
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i wish we’d sell Cesc to Real Madrid. it’ll teach barca to quit playing games and put in a serious offer! this Cesc saga is holding back Wenger from buying players….

By Jalepinho | July 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
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haha, i hear ya van den Berg. They are apparently calling the transfer fee, “paying ramsom”.

By van den Berg | July 16th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
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Xavi is known as “the negotiator” :)

By Finnster01 | July 16th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
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Hey Carlos,

Have any of the Liverpool players showed up on your restaurant yet? Some should be in Singapore for a quick R&R now after their Malaysia trip.

By Jan | July 16th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
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Cool, the Dayton Lions. Coached by former Ajax defender Sonny Silooy and owned by former Ajax youth prospect and Eredivisie striker Erik Tammer. Wonderful Dutch connections and actually a whole Dutch management team.

By Jan | July 16th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
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Rumors…. Robin van Persie signs for Real Madrid…pffff…. With Nasri

Ajax can’t score. Again! Against German number 6 Nurnberg.

Ajax is still looking for a striker. They signed the Icelander and they have Castillon but De Boer wants more options.

Wijnaldum: “I will always have a Feyenoord heart! I hope the legion will shortly understand what I’ve done.”

Van Nistelrooy scores twice at official debut ( winning 4-1).
The theory is that Wijnaldum donated a % of his signing fee to Feyenoord and has a clause in his contract saying that if PSV sells him to a big foreign club, a % of that fee will go to Feyenoord as well.

By ferenc | July 16th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
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i’m bored with the cesc saga. barca should pay the 40millions,and that’s it. i understand he’s sad at arsenal,but he shouldn’t have signed his contract extension 2 years ago. he must know that barcelona are the best team in the world without him,and arsenal didn’t win any trophy with him and until wenger remains the boss they won’t. i like his style,he’s a great player,but this endless story is too much. if he really wants this transfer,he has to write a request declairing he wants to go.

i hope rvp desn’t go to madrid…

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By van den Berg | July 16th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
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Argentina out of the copa. Losing on penalties to Uruguay

By ferenc | July 17th, 2011 at 2:48 am
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uruguay deserved the qualification

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By Agragami | July 17th, 2011 at 3:22 am
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RvP to Madrid !!! that’s shit again

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By Srinjoy | July 17th, 2011 at 4:40 am
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all my preseason optimism for ajax has faded after watching them crash at relegation candidate nurnberg 2-0 :( even with steks in goal :(
ARGENTINA n messi r out :D
hope Brazil n Neymar will be 2 :D :D

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By Srinjoy | July 17th, 2011 at 9:27 am
By Carlos | July 17th, 2011 at 9:45 am
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Finn they are in town, but Adidas, Stanchart etc have them tied for events ALL day. :(

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By van den Berg | July 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
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You got your wish, Srinjoy. Brazil out, four missed penalties.

By guillaume vB | July 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
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And I thought only my two countries could miss so many penalties. Sweet to be joined by Brazil in the losers’ club.

By Jad | July 17th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
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and why they did not miss those penalties in 98

By Abhirup | July 18th, 2011 at 12:55 am
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Well said Jad..

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