Eredivisie Shenanigans….

imagine next year summer we come with V.Wolfswinkel top scorer portugese leage, RVP EPL top scorer, Huntelaar bundesliga top scorer (now 2goals short from gomez), Luuk de jong dutch top scorer (now 4goals short from dmertens). BTW bas dost just have a hattrick.

Posted from  Australia

Really cool Van Persie video made by Skysports

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UinXdcydiRQ&ap=%2526fmt%3D22

Really cool Van Persie video made by Skysports HD version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UinXdcydiRQ&feature=player_embedded&hd=1

Jake 3 at the back was best demonstrated by the 88 Oranje team and is also an Ajax favourite. what this means that against a 4-4-2….you have 2 markers who stick to the 2 strikers ad one free man R Koeman or Danny Blind during those days. I like the system as the FREE man can often move forward as noone marks him.
Free man is often called “Libero” too.

Posted from  Singapore

thanks carlos
these days big teams play with 1 striker & 2wings or 3 strikers in 4-3-3. so its no longer take advantage of one free man?

Posted from  Australia

Hee guys,

I hear a lot of discussion about the playing style against france and italy ‘08. Altought i agree that those games were one of the greatest games in Oranje history, most people forgot the best player in those games: Edwin van der Sar.

If you look at the statistics of that game you will see that the shots on target were even. VDS had some spectacular saves and kept us in the game. We could easily have lost those games if it wasn’t for VDS.

So even though that with the Ultra-attacking style we played some spectacular matches i prefer the more conservative style we have now. Our defense just isn’t up to the task. If we want to win the EC we must hold on to the path BVM has chosen. I think it is our best chance.

Posted from  Netherlands

did anyone seen Adam maher goal this weekend? class goal

http://eredivisielive.nl/wedstrijd/1621909

3:50

Robbert,

Yes, those games could have gone either way. But since then, the growth of those players has gone through the roof. Robben, van Persie, Sneijder, and Van der Vaart are way better now then they were then. Where our controlling midfielders in 08 were Engelaar (?!) and De Jong, it is now Van Bommel.

And that was after a time where Van Basten was experimenting with new players EVERY GAME. Jaliens, Landzaat, Romano Denneboom?? This team now has been playing together since Van Marwijk took over, and the chemistry is higher than it’s been in decades. Holland has improved in every single way since 2008.

Hate to rain on a parade but although VdV and Van Persie have been on fire, there seems to be an obvious problem with the big 4. Schnijder just doesn’t seem to like Van Persie, and Robben doesn’t seem to either. Might be voetbal style, might be something else, but for a long time, it appears that they just won’t pass to him.

Van M seems to have been reasonably patient – but it his a hard thing to resolve, because Oranje scores when you move the ball quickly and if you don’t involve one of your strikers – especially the one in the middle, really slows you down.

The other challenge is to get a group of defenders who can defend and start the counter attack quickly. And clearly Oranje is working on that too.

Third, the 2008 games were even in shots – but the Oranje shots in the 3 wins were a lot harder and more direct. They did thump Italia, France and Rounmania.

Russia was another story – but remember Boularhouz lost a child the day before. I can’t imagine playing when a teammates just lost a kid.

Posted from  United States

Primo,

I hope your right. The only way to find out is by playing the ultra attacking style against top teams, for example against Germany in november.although i don’t think BVM will ever do this.

Posted from  Netherlands

I don;t agree that Sneijder has an on-field problem with Van Persie. Same with Robben. These guys are professionals and among the best at what they do. And they realize that about eachother too. It’s been a while since they have all played together, but at the World Cup Van Persie really was incredibly isolated. People say he failed but he didn’t even really get that many chances. I think if we have VdV playing (not on the wing though) as DM with vanBommel then he would have got more service.

It’s looking more and more like van Marwijk will go with vBommel/Van der Vaart as De Jong seems to have been benched during his injury spell. The 6-1 rout of Man Utd without him didn’t help him much either.

Posted from  Canada

Why is the German media attacking Robben so much?? It’s not like he was bought for 90MM Euros and he doesn’t make crazy money in Munich. Why are they trying to kick him out of Bayern’s squad?? Yes, Bayern is winning a lot of good games this year without him included, but can anyone see them beat Man Utd with Muller and Ribery only?? Can they even dream to match up against Barcelona with Kroos?

Quality wise, he’s definitely on par with Messi and a step ahead of Ronaldo but both these make soo much more money then he does, so what is wrong with him being hurt for parts of the season?

Germans doesn’t like Dutch.

Why don’t they like Robben?

A) He’s Dutch (agreed)
B) He’s mouthy and opionated.
C) He’s never had great field vision,
D) He’s injury prone.
E) He’s still Dutch.

Also, in general although Robben is a fantastic dribbler, fast as all get out and has a great shot, he’s not one of the best, because he just doesnt’ have the field vision. It’s always been his weakness, he just isn’t a great passer. And that’s what makes him not quite up there with Ronaldo or Messi.

Also think De Jong will be back at Man City – Mancini loves to rotate his players, which is wise given the length of the season.

Posted from  United States

Peoples dont understand that combination of big4 cannot work together mainly because of lack of work rate of roben and his selfishness.Sniejder doesnt seems to give any pass to persie and vaart doesnt play goos like a winger.So it will nor work.ok then BVM puts kuyt on wing and raf or Roben will loose their place and we know kuyt cannot hold the ball for a second and not as skilled as others.So rythem of attcaks breaks there.With additon of Dejong and bommel makes more hard to play beautiful football.and Raf cannot play well there,i think bommel is 35 and Bvm should play with Dejong and Strootman there.i beleive vanpersie can do the magic from left wing also.
————Wolfswinkel/hnuter/Luuk——————
Persie/Afaleey======Vaart/Wesley======Roben/Wijnaldum
——–Strootman/deguzman—Dejong/schaars———–
Peiters/Annholt—————————-Weil/Bruma
——–Joris/Maduro—–Johny/Douglas————–
==========Steke/Krul=========================

@Keko: Not too many countries like the Germans either. Although they seem to be quite proud of finishing second in back-to-back world wars. Go figure.

samuel Oudegeest,I disagree there about Robben. He is a great passer,he just doesnt pass often because of his selfishness. But he can easily find a killer pass when he wants to.

I totally disagree with Oudegeest. If you have seen the last two season of Robben (I doubt), you would find his assists were amazing. He’s devoloped a really good field vision.

@Finnster, haha that’s true.

HAHAHA….Finn….

Finn:

robben: for me he’s one of the 6 best player of the world (iniesta,messi,robben,ronaldo,sneijder,xavi),but the main problem with him is that he’s regularly injured 6 months or even more per year. if i was a clubmanager i wouldn’t sign him,because the worst thing is to have a diamond but you can do nothing with this diamond…

Ferenc, I would put Van Persie instead Iniesta

Keko,

Agreed we don’t get Bundesligia much in the States, so I haven’t seen a lot of Robben. So, I’m looking at his Oranje passing, which has been quite limited since he doesn’t play often.

Hopefully get to watch some of his Champions League matches.

Posted from  United States

Geez, that’s unbileeavble. Kudos and such.