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		<title>By: arema</title>
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		<dc:creator>arema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oranje starting lineup in 2010, 4-1-3-2.

Stek

Heitinga-Donk-Marcellis-Pieters

De Jong

Afellay/Babel - Sneijder - vdVaart

vPersie  -- Huntelaar

Pieters and Marcellis will/should get their debuts soon, and hopefully ready in 2 years. Not sure about Donk, depends on if he gets playing times. The rests are picked out automatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oranje starting lineup in 2010, 4-1-3-2.</p>
<p>Stek</p>
<p>Heitinga-Donk-Marcellis-Pieters</p>
<p>De Jong</p>
<p>Afellay/Babel &#8211; Sneijder &#8211; vdVaart</p>
<p>vPersie  &#8212; Huntelaar</p>
<p>Pieters and Marcellis will/should get their debuts soon, and hopefully ready in 2 years. Not sure about Donk, depends on if he gets playing times. The rests are picked out automatically.</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just for fun; Oranje in 2012;

------------------Velthuizen--------------
---Zuiverloon--------------------------Drenthe---
------------Donk---------Marcellis--------------
-----Heitinga-----------------------deJong------
---------------Babel----------vdVaart----------
----vPerie--------------Huntelaar--------------

doenst look that impressive for me, luckely always new players arrive who are not expected

btw; in 2012  Robben will have retired due to injury...just a guess!! haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just for fun; Oranje in 2012;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Velthuizen&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
&#8212;Zuiverloon&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Drenthe&#8212;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Donk&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Marcellis&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Heitinga&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;deJong&#8212;&#8212;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Babel&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-vdVaart&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&#8212;-vPerie&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Huntelaar&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>doenst look that impressive for me, luckely always new players arrive who are not expected</p>
<p>btw; in 2012  Robben will have retired due to injury&#8230;just a guess!! haha</p>
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		<title>By: Van Basten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van Basten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate a lone striker system. Goals never come in handy. Always difficult to score unless you have a very effective and productive midfield like Spain. Italy has a lone striker Luca Toni, and although the best scorer in Bayern Munchen, he had no goals in the EC. Fernando Torres was only able to produce two goals in the EC. I rather have two srikers for the new Dutch team with Huntelaar and Van Persie. By the way, how come all the proposed lineups have no Dirk Kuyt?He is so underestimated, yet he he is selfless and the hardest working man. Most of the 33 goals of Torres at Liverpool came from Kuyt. Also in the game against Italy he had 2 assists. So don&#039;t write him off yet. But our weakness is still the defense, we need to get those guys up to speed, and have a backline similar to that of the Azurri. Our guys are so young and inexperienced, and I am afraid that WC2010 will be the same old same story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate a lone striker system. Goals never come in handy. Always difficult to score unless you have a very effective and productive midfield like Spain. Italy has a lone striker Luca Toni, and although the best scorer in Bayern Munchen, he had no goals in the EC. Fernando Torres was only able to produce two goals in the EC. I rather have two srikers for the new Dutch team with Huntelaar and Van Persie. By the way, how come all the proposed lineups have no Dirk Kuyt?He is so underestimated, yet he he is selfless and the hardest working man. Most of the 33 goals of Torres at Liverpool came from Kuyt. Also in the game against Italy he had 2 assists. So don&#8217;t write him off yet. But our weakness is still the defense, we need to get those guys up to speed, and have a backline similar to that of the Azurri. Our guys are so young and inexperienced, and I am afraid that WC2010 will be the same old same story.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan&#039;s team is too old and slow, Tim&#039;s team is just not good enough, Michael-Oliver&#039;s team is too untested and speculative. How about this team?

        VDS (his best chance ever will be with this young veteran team)

Boulah  Heitinga  Ooijer  Emmanuleson (Drenthe)

            DeJong 

Babel  Sneijder Van Der vaart  Robben

           Huntelaar

Not in love with that back 4 but obvioulsy that&#039;s the hard part when making out these lineups. Would love to move Boulah and ooijer out, but for who? Zuiverloon completely untested, Donk, Marcellis have shown great promise, but that&#039;s about it so far. De Cler? Not really. Mathijsen is invisible, Gio will be too old....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan&#8217;s team is too old and slow, Tim&#8217;s team is just not good enough, Michael-Oliver&#8217;s team is too untested and speculative. How about this team?</p>
<p>        VDS (his best chance ever will be with this young veteran team)</p>
<p>Boulah  Heitinga  Ooijer  Emmanuleson (Drenthe)</p>
<p>            DeJong </p>
<p>Babel  Sneijder Van Der vaart  Robben</p>
<p>           Huntelaar</p>
<p>Not in love with that back 4 but obvioulsy that&#8217;s the hard part when making out these lineups. Would love to move Boulah and ooijer out, but for who? Zuiverloon completely untested, Donk, Marcellis have shown great promise, but that&#8217;s about it so far. De Cler? Not really. Mathijsen is invisible, Gio will be too old&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel-Olivier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel-Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alex 
2 years is enough to develop. they just need experience in the senior squad.
Emanuelson, Drenthe, and Zuiverloon are ready. Pieters and Marcellis need another year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex<br />
2 years is enough to develop. they just need experience in the senior squad.<br />
Emanuelson, Drenthe, and Zuiverloon are ready. Pieters and Marcellis need another year.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michel-Olivier 
Not sure about youre defence, you cant really say how Vlaar is going to develop, i&#039;d say Boulahrouz-Heitinga would be a hell of a central defence, But who knows with talents like Vlaar, Donk and Marcellis, 
Emanuelson and Drenthe might not be the best choice for the WC, Emanuelson still lacks real defensive quality, altough he could be worldclass by 2010, and Drenthe still feels better as a left wing attacker. 
Perhaps Bouma or De Cler on leftback if Emanuelson/Drenthe or even Pieters haven&#039;t (yet) developed enough by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michel-Olivier<br />
Not sure about youre defence, you cant really say how Vlaar is going to develop, i&#8217;d say Boulahrouz-Heitinga would be a hell of a central defence, But who knows with talents like Vlaar, Donk and Marcellis,<br />
Emanuelson and Drenthe might not be the best choice for the WC, Emanuelson still lacks real defensive quality, altough he could be worldclass by 2010, and Drenthe still feels better as a left wing attacker.<br />
Perhaps Bouma or De Cler on leftback if Emanuelson/Drenthe or even Pieters haven&#8217;t (yet) developed enough by then.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel-Olivier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel-Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ tim

—————-stekelenburg—————–
Zuiverloon - heitenga - Vlaar - Emanuelson/drenthe
——————de jong——————–
Robben — van persie — sneijder — Babel
—————-Huntelaar——————-

much better that way. van persie is a Supporting striker not a target man. engelaar in defense you must be mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tim</p>
<p>—————-stekelenburg—————–<br />
Zuiverloon &#8211; heitenga &#8211; Vlaar &#8211; Emanuelson/drenthe<br />
——————de jong——————–<br />
Robben — van persie — sneijder — Babel<br />
—————-Huntelaar——————-</p>
<p>much better that way. van persie is a Supporting striker not a target man. engelaar in defense you must be mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Van Basten: The AD readers are all Dutch and Dutch fans and with Sar playing a pretty good tournament and having signed off, to me it was logical that the fans picked him. Objectively, you&#039;re right of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Van Basten: The AD readers are all Dutch and Dutch fans and with Sar playing a pretty good tournament and having signed off, to me it was logical that the fans picked him. Objectively, you&#8217;re right of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was :-). So maybe we&#039;ll see:

Sar

Ooijer   Bouma Mathijsen  Gio

Van Bommel  Engelaar

Van der Vaart  Sneijder  Robben

Van Nistelrooy

in the Wc2010 :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . So maybe we&#8217;ll see:</p>
<p>Sar</p>
<p>Ooijer   Bouma Mathijsen  Gio</p>
<p>Van Bommel  Engelaar</p>
<p>Van der Vaart  Sneijder  Robben</p>
<p>Van Nistelrooy</p>
<p>in the Wc2010 <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that Sneijder is being nominated as player of the tournament.
Well it is qualified that the winner usually comes from the Winning team.

Good ole Wes says he would trade the honourable mention or the award for a trip through the canals of Amsterdam with his team mates.

At the WC most of these guys will be 25-28 which is an ideal age for football. But then wasn&#039;t Arnold Muhren ( he of the gifted left foot) 37 when he played in the final ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that Sneijder is being nominated as player of the tournament.<br />
Well it is qualified that the winner usually comes from the Winning team.</p>
<p>Good ole Wes says he would trade the honourable mention or the award for a trip through the canals of Amsterdam with his team mates.</p>
<p>At the WC most of these guys will be 25-28 which is an ideal age for football. But then wasn&#8217;t Arnold Muhren ( he of the gifted left foot) 37 when he played in the final ?</p>
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