Comments on: The Best of the EC according to the AD http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:22:49 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jojohnson http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157706 jojohnson Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:07:05 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157706 well i would agree with this team if only saw them after quarter finals but you should give a credict to Fatih Terim his team dominated German match with 2. squad i mean come on they used midfield player in centre back position because there is no avaible back in the team if somebody -like isnt already enough- has a injury before the game they might think their 3. goalkeeper as a left back WHAT THE? well i would agree with this team if only saw them after quarter finals but you should give a credict to Fatih Terim his team dominated German match with 2. squad i mean come on they used midfield player in centre back position because there is no avaible back in the team if somebody -like isnt already enough- has a injury before the game they might think their 3. goalkeeper as a left back WHAT THE?

]]> By: Alex http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157703 Alex Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:54:12 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157703 Puyol didn't really do anything impressive so doesn't deserve it,thought Boulahrouz showed more quality than Puyol, at least this tournament, i would say Sergio Ramos instead of Sabri, Ramos just al little better, i think Nigel de Jong did much better controlling then Semak. And i feel Schweinsteiger and Podolski don't really deserve their places more than Robben and Iniesta or Sneijder and Xavi. I say, this isn't team of the EC. Puyol didn’t really do anything impressive so doesn’t deserve it,thought Boulahrouz showed more quality than Puyol, at least this tournament, i would say Sergio Ramos instead of Sabri, Ramos just al little better, i think Nigel de Jong did much better controlling then Semak. And i feel Schweinsteiger and Podolski don’t really deserve their places more than Robben and Iniesta or Sneijder and Xavi. I say, this isn’t team of the EC.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157693 Jan Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:49:15 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157693 Correct Finn. But I don't mind that really. Russia did great. So did Guus. We all like those "easy heroes" if you know what I mean. Here on Australian tv the only player they talked about was Ronaldinho, some years back. As if Deco, Iniesta, Xavi and Marquez weren't important. And Guus deserves respect. Russian-exile: who exactly doesn't understand football and/or players :-) ? So fans, site-moderators, media, coaches, managers and club owners don't understand football, only Russian-exile does? Correct Finn. But I don’t mind that really. Russia did great. So did Guus. We all like those “easy heroes” if you know what I mean. Here on Australian tv the only player they talked about was Ronaldinho, some years back. As if Deco, Iniesta, Xavi and Marquez weren’t important. And Guus deserves respect.

Russian-exile: who exactly doesn’t understand football and/or players :-) ?

So fans, site-moderators, media, coaches, managers and club owners don’t understand football, only Russian-exile does?

]]> By: finnster01 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157686 finnster01 Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:09:01 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157686 You know the sad thing about this EC, is that it will not be remembered for Oranje schooling the existing World Champions AND the other WC finalist, France. It will be remembered as the EC Guus took an "unknown" Russian team to knock out the favorites. That is a shame, but for non-Oranje fans, that is what they will remember You know the sad thing about this EC, is that it will not be remembered for Oranje schooling the existing World Champions AND the other WC finalist, France. It will be remembered as the EC Guus took an “unknown” Russian team to knock out the favorites.

That is a shame, but for non-Oranje fans, that is what they will remember

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157684 Jan Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:30:23 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157684 We are the Brazil of 1982. The Danes of 1986. The Portuguese of 1984. Hell, we are the Oranje of 1974, 1978, 1992, 1998, 2000.... :-( We are the Brazil of 1982. The Danes of 1986. The Portuguese of 1984.

Hell, we are the Oranje of 1974, 1978, 1992, 1998, 2000…. :-(

]]> By: russian-exile http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157683 russian-exile Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:25:10 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157683 yes Ramos had his best game in ages in the semi-final but, when Zhirkov goes to try to take on the entire Spanish defensive line singlehandedly and slips because of the wet conditions, I wouldn't call that domination by Ramos >_> / by the way Zhirkov is without a doubt the most consistent player in the RPL, so you know something is wrong when even he had a bad game. Honestly he's as solid as they come. / and from your comments it seems you people don't know much about either football or these players. / let me spell it out for you, Arshavin can create magic out of nothing. He is a player which will do the mundane, make a few passes.. maybe a tackle or two, then all the sudden a piece of brilliance which creates a scoring chance. It might not happen in every-game, but he is a good option to have in your team, and he is usually very clinical in his finishing if he gets a shot on target. / you cannot compare him to other players like Silva who might might be part of the action more often but have less potential for greatness. Well come to think of it it's really hard to explain on paper but most people don't' seem to realize things like style of play. They just see vague things like position "forward", "winger" and argue about who's the "best" when it's like comparing apples to oranges. But it's not just fans even managers and owners make moronic decisions bringing certain players which obviously have no place in the team (ie Ballack, Shevchenko, and Wright-Phillips, all came at once to Chelsea.. but then again they were brought not to succeed but to make sure the other big 3 didn't get their hands on them, and they were all too happy to oblige when Abramovich basically doubled what clubs like Man U were offering). yes Ramos had his best game in ages in the semi-final but, when Zhirkov goes to try to take on the entire Spanish defensive line singlehandedly and slips because of the wet conditions, I wouldn’t call that domination by Ramos >_>
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by the way Zhirkov is without a doubt the most consistent player in the RPL, so you know something is wrong when even he had a bad game. Honestly he’s as solid as they come.
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and from your comments it seems you people don’t know much about either football or these players.
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let me spell it out for you, Arshavin can create magic out of nothing. He is a player which will do the mundane, make a few passes.. maybe a tackle or two, then all the sudden a piece of brilliance which creates a scoring chance. It might not happen in every-game, but he is a good option to have in your team, and he is usually very clinical in his finishing if he gets a shot on target.
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you cannot compare him to other players like Silva who might might be part of the action more often but have less potential for greatness. Well come to think of it it’s really hard to explain on paper but most people don’t’ seem to realize things like style of play. They just see vague things like position “forward”, “winger” and argue about who’s the “best” when it’s like comparing apples to oranges. But it’s not just fans even managers and owners make moronic decisions bringing certain players which obviously have no place in the team (ie Ballack, Shevchenko, and Wright-Phillips, all came at once to Chelsea.. but then again they were brought not to succeed but to make sure the other big 3 didn’t get their hands on them, and they were all too happy to oblige when Abramovich basically doubled what clubs like Man U were offering).

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157682 Jan Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:00:26 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157682 Fares, it's true. When you perform well in the groupstages but get bitchslapped in the knock out stages, neutral people don't seem to care anymore. Sad. Fares, it’s true. When you perform well in the groupstages but get bitchslapped in the knock out stages, neutral people don’t seem to care anymore. Sad.

]]> By: Fares Van Kar http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157670 Fares Van Kar Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:46:59 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157670 What surprises me is this .. a week ago everyone was talking about How good is Holland and how their player and their coach showed the world soccer is attacking. Funnily their goals were selected the best, their players were the best. But all of a sudden no one recalls SH*T about them. Imagine one goal or thing takes away all the work from years. Thanks Guss for breaking my heart ... You are just Semi Final guy. With Holland or with South Korea and even with Brazil. What surprises me is this .. a week ago everyone was talking about How good is Holland and how their player and their coach showed the world soccer is attacking. Funnily their goals were selected the best, their players were the best. But all of a sudden no one recalls SH*T about them.

Imagine one goal or thing takes away all the work from years.

Thanks Guss for breaking my heart … You are just Semi Final guy. With Holland or with South Korea and even with Brazil.

]]> By: Igor http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157662 Igor Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:53:24 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157662 i am biased, but i think i can say this since i've always disliked him even in his ajax days...doesn't de Jong deserve to be there instead of semak? and schweinsteiger is also overrated in my opinion (inconsistent, undisciplined) i'd rather see fabregas or sneijder in this team somewhere. i am biased, but i think i can say this since i’ve always disliked him even in his ajax days…doesn’t de Jong deserve to be there instead of semak? and schweinsteiger is also overrated in my opinion (inconsistent, undisciplined) i’d rather see fabregas or sneijder in this team somewhere.

]]> By: --HedonistiX http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html/comment-page-1#comment-157656 --HedonistiX Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:38:59 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/the-best-of-the-ec-according-to-the-ad.html#comment-157656 Cesc or David Silva should be there before Schweinsteiger, Podolski or Arshavin. I also like Andrea Pirlo and Camoranesi a lot (despite hating their team). Always hard to select best XI because players in losing teams may not look as good as they were (Sneijder) or in winning teams may look better than they really were (to me Arshavin). Except for the Oranje NOT playing in the final and lift the trophy, I think this EC is the best tournament (EC or WC) in recent years in term of many goals scored, relatively attractive football (except for some teams). --H Cesc or David Silva should be there before Schweinsteiger, Podolski or Arshavin. I also like Andrea Pirlo and Camoranesi a lot (despite hating their team). Always hard to select best XI because players in losing teams may not look as good as they were (Sneijder) or in winning teams may look better than they really were (to me Arshavin).

Except for the Oranje NOT playing in the final and lift the trophy, I think this EC is the best tournament (EC or WC) in recent years in term of many goals scored, relatively attractive football (except for some teams).

–H

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