Comments on: Trouble for Ajax and Feyenoord; PSV wins… http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:05:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Alex http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159078 Alex Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:04:35 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159078 Afellay absolutele class performance, and strong play from Amrabat, Marcellis and Pieters. De Guzman is very far from overrated, is only 20 and he still needs to learn a good deal, but defenitaly on of the biggest talents, one red card doesn't mean sh*t, I thought half of Feyenoord deserved to be in the Jupiler League the second half. Heitinga impressed me by how easily he adjusted, but let's hope he'll learn a few more things from Ujfalusi as well. I'd like to see an internationally apreciated Dutch defender again, and let's hope Boulahrouz can truly return to the defender he used to was. AZ were unlucky, bad defending by Swerts, Jaliens as well, i feel especially Jaliens doesn't deserve a start in the line-up anymore, rather put in Luirink instead. He's 10 times better, and still only 24/25. Donk should learn a great deal from his trip to PL, hope he picks up where he left when he just played for AZ, Oranje could defenitaly need some talented defenders right now instead of Ooijer. Vlaar(unfortunately injured), Marcellis, Zuiverloon, Donk, Loovens, Braafheid, Kruiswijk, at least a few of them should get a chance. Hope to see some improvement at Ajax by the way, Vermaelen and Verthongen were very impressive at the Belgian U-21 on the Olympics but they missed the entire preparation of Ajax so they still have to adjust to the group. I think it'll turn out better next time. Afellay absolutele class performance, and strong play from Amrabat, Marcellis and Pieters. De Guzman is very far from overrated, is only 20 and he still needs to learn a good deal, but defenitaly on of the biggest talents, one red card doesn’t mean sh*t, I thought half of Feyenoord deserved to be in the Jupiler League the second half. Heitinga impressed me by how easily he adjusted, but let’s hope he’ll learn a few more things from Ujfalusi as well. I’d like to see an internationally apreciated Dutch defender again, and let’s hope Boulahrouz can truly return to the defender he used to was. AZ were unlucky, bad defending by Swerts, Jaliens as well, i feel especially Jaliens doesn’t deserve a start in the line-up anymore, rather put in Luirink instead. He’s 10 times better, and still only 24/25.

Donk should learn a great deal from his trip to PL, hope he picks up where he left when he just played for AZ, Oranje could defenitaly need some talented defenders right now instead of Ooijer. Vlaar(unfortunately injured), Marcellis, Zuiverloon, Donk, Loovens, Braafheid, Kruiswijk, at least a few of them should get a chance.

Hope to see some improvement at Ajax by the way, Vermaelen and Verthongen were very impressive at the Belgian U-21 on the Olympics but they missed the entire preparation of Ajax so they still have to adjust to the group. I think it’ll turn out better next time.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159077 Jan Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:16:53 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159077 @Jason: I think it has been proven that Peru threw the game (semi finals?) to allow Argentina to get to the finals. Also, that infamous 12-1 win of Spain over Malta - ousting Holland in the process - was dodgy. I believe the Maltese goalie got rewarder heavily for his "bad luck". I don't know if the game is on YouTube but that goalie - who actually was pretty solid and moved to Spain (!) - was hopeless on that day. @Jason: I think it has been proven that Peru threw the game (semi finals?) to allow Argentina to get to the finals.

Also, that infamous 12-1 win of Spain over Malta – ousting Holland in the process – was dodgy. I believe the Maltese goalie got rewarder heavily for his “bad luck”. I don’t know if the game is on YouTube but that goalie – who actually was pretty solid and moved to Spain (!) – was hopeless on that day.

]]> By: finnster01 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159076 finnster01 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:09:06 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159076 Sure was Jason. Remember the Peru game? Also, do you guys remember the 1982 WC Germany- Austria 1-0? I have never seen so much ping-pong on a soccer match ever. Nobody on either team never even tried to score after the first goal. Sure was Jason. Remember the Peru game?

Also, do you guys remember the 1982 WC Germany- Austria 1-0? I have never seen so much ping-pong on a soccer match ever. Nobody on either team never even tried to score after the first goal.

]]> By: jason http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159075 jason Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:51:14 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159075 This is off topic but with all the talk about fixes in world cups hitting the headlines I can't help but think Argentina 78 was a fix from the get-go. Who agrees with me??? This is off topic but with all the talk about fixes in world cups hitting the headlines I can’t help but think Argentina 78 was a fix from the get-go.

Who agrees with me???

]]> By: Tjeerd http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159074 Tjeerd Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:49:00 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159074 Affeley looks awfully good Affeley looks awfully good

]]> By: dirk v.d.berg http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159072 dirk v.d.berg Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:41:09 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159072 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=568503&sec=europe&root=europe&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2&cc=5901 this is an article about how Dutch clubs are losing all of their talent. Apparently Arsenal provided the Barazite family with a new home, so that they could sign him under the age of 18, and he would count as homegrown. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=568503&sec=europe&root=europe&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2&cc=5901

this is an article about how Dutch clubs are losing all of their talent. Apparently Arsenal provided the Barazite family with a new home, so that they could sign him under the age of 18, and he would count as homegrown.

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159071 goose Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:43:03 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159071 @Jason; not sure; ill post YT highlights of as much as a can find each monday Fc Utrecht - Psv http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=U6kxxfGnhGc Heracles - Feyenoord http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=guOM3DmANXs Sparta - Den Haag http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=W-C8rWtLBCA NEC - De Graafschap http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=oiUM9sRva3s Vitesse - Groningen (check the first goal) http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=a6VrNXWxQSQ Ajax - Willem II (cant find any highlights, just the Ajax goal) http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=V-SniB-23gw it has been a great weekend; think its more than 60 years ago that both Ajax and Feyenoord lost their opening matches... Psv looked very strong; think Affelay will be the best dutch player this season, he scored 2 (as much as his total last year) and played like a master, Amrabat is ok but has behaviour problems, will have to wait and see if he makes it.. Feyenoord did play with almost 1/2 the team injured, and without Makaay they lack a decent striker (Michel Mols was great 6 years ago), stupid foul by deGuzman who elbowed somebody, Verbeek should know better think it will be another tough year for Feyenoord Ajax played awful, esp. mentally! they seem unable to fight for a victory you can have a team with 11 balerinas and you wont win a thing guess vBasten can finally learn his trade!! Az lost another game, but they do look stronger than last year, Schaars is back and thats a plus (altough he did miss a penalty!) Fc Den Haag who is newly promoted won 5-2 in Rotterdam v Sparta ill try and find some more highlight grtz @Jason; not sure; ill post YT highlights of as much as a can find each monday

Fc Utrecht – Psv
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=U6kxxfGnhGc

Heracles – Feyenoord
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=guOM3DmANXs

Sparta – Den Haag
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=W-C8rWtLBCA

NEC – De Graafschap
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=oiUM9sRva3s

Vitesse – Groningen (check the first goal)
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=a6VrNXWxQSQ

Ajax – Willem II (cant find any highlights, just the Ajax goal)
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=V-SniB-23gw

it has been a great weekend; think its more than 60 years ago that both Ajax and Feyenoord lost their opening matches…

Psv looked very strong; think Affelay will be the best dutch player this season, he scored 2 (as much as his total last year) and played like a master, Amrabat is ok but has behaviour problems, will have to wait and see if he makes it..

Feyenoord did play with almost 1/2 the team injured, and without Makaay they lack a decent striker (Michel Mols was great 6 years ago), stupid foul by deGuzman who elbowed somebody, Verbeek should know better
think it will be another tough year for Feyenoord

Ajax played awful, esp. mentally! they seem unable to fight for a victory
you can have a team with 11 balerinas and you wont win a thing
guess vBasten can finally learn his trade!!

Az lost another game, but they do look stronger than last year, Schaars is back and thats a plus (altough he did miss a penalty!)

Fc Den Haag who is newly promoted won 5-2 in Rotterdam v Sparta
ill try and find some more highlight

grtz

]]> By: jason http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159070 jason Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:05:22 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159070 A lot of the big teams lost on their opening games. It should make for an interesting season. I wish the Eredivisie was televised outside of the Netherlands in North America. Is there any sites that might stream the matches over the internet? A lot of the big teams lost on their opening games. It should make for an interesting season.

I wish the Eredivisie was televised outside of the Netherlands in North America. Is there any sites that might stream the matches over the internet?

]]> By: dirk v.d.berg http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159069 dirk v.d.berg Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:04:49 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159069 Zenden's already gotten 2 goals for Marseille, in four games, one from a free kick, but he's normally a substitute. Zenden’s already gotten 2 goals for Marseille, in four games, one from a free kick, but he’s normally a substitute.

]]> By: Tjeerd http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html/comment-page-1#comment-159068 Tjeerd Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:00:09 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/dutch-eredivisie/trouble-for-ajax-and-feyenoord-psv-wins.html#comment-159068 Feyenoord,.....I hope we do not have another long season. Feyenoord,…..I hope we do not have another long season.

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