FIFA wants 6+5 rule in football!

May 30th, 2008 | By: Jan | 10 Comments »


I can’t help it. This post needed a pic of Blatter I suppose, but I don’t like him so I decided to find a pic of Platini with JC. Couldn’t find one, so I suddenly thought about Van Gaal and his karate kick. With a caption “Next time I see that Blatter, this is what I’ll do!”. But I couldn’t find that one either. I did find this picture :-) . What happened: Van Gaal was at some seminar and was asked to repeat his famous karate kick he performed during the Ajax – AC Milan CL finals (1-0). He obliged, but slipped and fell and broke his ankle!!! I know, this is not funny… But….to me….it actually is. Very very funny…

I know… It’s not a sexy topic in the run up to the EC. We want to discuss Mathijsen, Robben and Babel… I know… But…this could be a very important rule for the future of Dutch football and maybe even the future of all football.

This idea started in Europe, if I’m not mistaken. Icons like Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini and Marco van Basten have been pushing this for quite some time now. The 6+5 rule. Wanna know what it is?

Simple. It means clubs can not longer play 11 players from all sort of countries in their team. The 6+5 rule means: 6 players need to be born in the country (or resident or citizen, I don’t know the exact wording, but the spirit of the rule is clear to me) where the club resides and 5 players may come from abroad.

So, where rich clubs like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool and PSV Eindhoven now can play eleven players from all over the world, in the future that is no longer possible. Madrid will need to play 6 Spanish players, Chelsea six English players, etc etc.

Why is this good for Dutch football? Two reasons: this means you can’t just buy the best players from anywhere to create a great team. Money will have its limits, in the sense that Chelsea can still buy six players from other English clubs, but at least that money remains in England (in this example) and the clubs that developed and sold those talents will be in a position to re-invest that money in their youth development. Second reason: players (like Drenthe for instance) will take into account the number of foreign players a club already has under contract. If Madrid has 8 great names from other countries, the chance that Drenthe will say “hang on, I’ll stay in Rotterdam another year” will be bigger.

Clubs like Feyenoord, Ajax and PSV will be forced to aim their sights on Dutch players, which will definitely help our status and our results in European competitions, what with our relatively good (sorry Johan Cruyff) youth development. It will also stop the exodus of young talented players.

The FIFA had a vote during the world football congress in Sydney and 155 delegates voted “pro”. Five delegates were against (English maybe?) and forty didn’t vote (I never understood why they don’t vote, but that’s me…).

There is one snag. The European Community is against this plan. It clashes with the “free export of labor” which is key in the European unity thinking. Or something like that… So, we’ll have to wait and see whether this plan will really take off. The lobbyists in Brussels will have a ball.

“Hi, I am Tony Adams, former captain or Arsenal. I am here to ask you to vote against this rule. And as a gift, I have two seasons tickets for the Emirates Stadium!”



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Username By Rob | May 30th, 2008 at 2:45 am
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I am totally in favor of this rule. English football is becoming ridiculous – Arsenal fielded an average of 0.5 British players per match this season. Players like Drenthe shouldn’t be moving so young.

I don’t think anything as drastic as 6 + 5 will be introduced though. More likely is the ruling UEFA’s pushing for, which involves players who are trained in the country. Either way – I think this will improve things anyway.

If the rule becomes less about nationality and more about roots in the club then I think the EC are more likely to allow it. I hope so anyway. Anything to drive big money out of football again – the state of the Premiership, though it’s buying a lot of success, is a sad one.

Coincidentally, I’d like to see only the champion from each league enter the Champions League again – it’s a competition that’s become devalued.

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Username By Jan | May 30th, 2008 at 2:56 am
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Totally agree!

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Username By ferenc | May 30th, 2008 at 4:36 am
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i agree, too and would like to mention that before the champions’ league which is no more champions’ league with 4 clubs of the 3 top championship the 2 other cups were really interesting. sometimes the uefa cup was much more difficult to win than the european cup. now we have a mega champions’ league and a far less interesting uefa cup. uefa cup is only interesting from march…
uefa probably will oppose to the 6+5 proposition. the 4+4 rule (which means that in the whole squad there should be 4 eligible for the national team and 4 from the club’s youth system) is more realistic – manchester united,barcelona,bayern munchen, etc try to do this way. but other clubs (inter,arsenal,etc.) will have problems.
all these changes should be welcomed by dutch clubs and will be good for dutxh football.

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Username By Michel-Olivier | May 30th, 2008 at 8:13 am
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i don’t agree with the rule.
6+5 rule will only benefit the spanish and italian league since most spanish and italian clubs go after players in south america with EU passports. most south americans players have mostly spanish, italian, and german passports.

i blame arsenal and wenger, if they never played an all foreign starting 11 in the champions league we wouldn’t have this debate right now.

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Username By Stefan | May 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am
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@ Michael-Olivier
Mind you, the Dutch have also had their fair share of South-Americans. I believe both Seedorf and Davids were born and raised in Suriname. ;)

Anyway, I don’t expect this rule to end all inequality (in terms of number of English, Spanish and Italian clubs in the final stages of the Champions League) either–indeed, only the format Rob is so nostalgically referring to could do this–, but I do agree that this is a step in the right direction. When we’re talking about the pan-European club tournaments, I guess it’s true that results are becoming rather predictable (i.e., one of the ‘big’ teams will win), and thus uninteresting for the bulk of the fans. Sure, we’re seeing good football, but the smaller countries really don’t stand a fair chance against clubs from the three or four major leagues. (By way of illustration, Hull City A.F.C. is certain of €70m additional income for reaching the Premier League, while that other A.F.C., Ajax, has a budget of similar size only when it reaches the Champions League!)

Jan’s picture is somewhat unidimensional, though, for while I can’t deny this 6+5 rule has some advantages for Dutch club football, I’m not quite sure whether it’s just as positive for the Dutch national team. Would players like Van Persie and Sneijder have been just as good had they stayed in the Netherlands for another year or two? And what are the effects for other small countries which don’t happen to be renowned for their excellent youth programmes?

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Username By Caleb | May 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
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I agree with the rule. I think it’s beneficial to the countries where the teams play in and helps football develop in those countries. I like seeing stars go abroad to other countries to learn another side of their game, but that should be done after they are stars, not when they are just young promising talent.

For example, Van Persie could still play for Arsenal, but chances are that Arsenal wouldn’t have signed him until he had proven himself in Holland. This would be better for Feyenoord – they keep him for longer and they get more money from the transfer. It’s also better for England because Arsenal are forced to develop/buy English talent as well. Finally, it’s good for Holland as Van Persie has more time to learn to play in the Dutch style.

Stefan – “And what are the effects for other small countries which don’t happen to be renowned for their excellent youth programmes?”

They are forced to develop youth programmes, as they should be.

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Username By goose | May 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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dont matter cause its never gonna happen..its against EU law…no way can FIFA have any saying in that

remember; the situation as it is right now is ideal for Oranje

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Username By Caleb | May 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
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Goose – why is the current situation ideal for Oranje? And it’s against EU law, but it wouldn’t be impossible to get a “special provision” for sport or something like that.

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Username By Rick | May 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
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yeah, it’s all arsenal’s fault. that’s pure bullshit. if there is any fault to be had here it is from the FA’s ridculous rules and pricing of english players. if you can buy a talented player from spain for 3millions pounds, why on earth would you pay 10 million on a equally talented player from hull? especially if said player may not be technically gifted? the 6+5 rule might help england get better but it just makes football worse in general. until teams start finding ways around it. should this rule go thru i would imagine you would see players not playing for their countries so they could play in other lucrative leagues.

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Username By Jan | May 30th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
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@Stefan: I see your point but I do believe the effect on the national side is not that negative for the smaller nations and definitely positive for the bigger nations (like England).

In the olden days, Holland was able to shine on big tournaments (when there was the three foreigners rule) so why not in the future. Even more so, it’ll give us (at club and youth level) to further develop the Dutch School, if you know what I mean.

Our current issue with Oranje is not that we don’t have great players, but we fail to make those players gel in a system that works. My personal opinion.

And in the 6+5 world, players like Robben, Sneijder and Van Persie would also emerge as exceptional talents. But mediocre or inexperienced players (Drenthe, De Ridder, Mathijsen, De Jong) wouldn’t be leaving that easy and therefore add more to the Dutch league and hopefully develop more.

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