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	<title>Comments on: Winning coaches aren&#8217;t always right &#8211; Johan Derksen</title>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
		<link>http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/winning-coaches-arent-always-right-johan-derksen.html/comment-page-1#comment-102080</link>
		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hear, hear Bob, very well said.... btw i have the same experience when it comes to &#039;the broken record&#039;... but eh, if nothing changes the critism will also stay the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear, hear Bob, very well said&#8230;. btw i have the same experience when it comes to &#8216;the broken record&#8217;&#8230; but eh, if nothing changes the critism will also stay the same</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Bob. And I don&#039;t disagree with you on De Haan. I never claimed that De Haan wouldn&#039;t be right. But, he wouldn&#039;t be my first choice because he never proved to be able to work with &quot;arrivee&quot; top gun players, with entourages, million dollar paychecks, pr-managers and the works. So, it that way, I see Foppe as a risky choice. Adriaanse, Hiddink and even Van Gaal command respect when they walk in the door. De Haan is also the somewhat distracted professor or nice uncle. Could it work? Yes it could. The man is funny, mocks himself and has a great rapport with the youngsters, but I don&#039;t know how Van Nistelrooy, Van der Vaart, Seedorf and Van der Sar will look at De Haan. That&#039;s what I meant.

It&#039;s funny that Adriaanse as a very tough defender always plays creative and attractive football as a coach. Or that Hiddink, a lazy but very talented midfielder, uses discipline as a major tool... Sometimes coaches are totally different when as coach then they were as players. Van Basten the player loathed mediocre players. He is known to have scolded at Cruyff when he let Vanenburg and Koeman go at Ajax to sign Wouters and Blind as replacements. And now, players that Marco wouldn&#039;t even have talked to as a player are protected by him (Mathijsen, Bouma, Ooijer, Landzaat, De Jong).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Bob. And I don&#8217;t disagree with you on De Haan. I never claimed that De Haan wouldn&#8217;t be right. But, he wouldn&#8217;t be my first choice because he never proved to be able to work with &#8220;arrivee&#8221; top gun players, with entourages, million dollar paychecks, pr-managers and the works. So, it that way, I see Foppe as a risky choice. Adriaanse, Hiddink and even Van Gaal command respect when they walk in the door. De Haan is also the somewhat distracted professor or nice uncle. Could it work? Yes it could. The man is funny, mocks himself and has a great rapport with the youngsters, but I don&#8217;t know how Van Nistelrooy, Van der Vaart, Seedorf and Van der Sar will look at De Haan. That&#8217;s what I meant.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that Adriaanse as a very tough defender always plays creative and attractive football as a coach. Or that Hiddink, a lazy but very talented midfielder, uses discipline as a major tool&#8230; Sometimes coaches are totally different when as coach then they were as players. Van Basten the player loathed mediocre players. He is known to have scolded at Cruyff when he let Vanenburg and Koeman go at Ajax to sign Wouters and Blind as replacements. And now, players that Marco wouldn&#8217;t even have talked to as a player are protected by him (Mathijsen, Bouma, Ooijer, Landzaat, De Jong).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I sound like a &quot;broken record&quot; (American expression meaning to constantly repeat the same thing)but again the analogy to the American sport experience may be useful. It is rare here in the States that a great athlete becomes a great coach. The very best coaches have, generally, been athletes who played the sport at a reasonable level but, perhaps for the lack of physical talent, never achieved excellence or greatness. In the three major sports here, only Larry Bird and Bill Russell, great players, became top quality coaches. In football and baseball, I know of no great player who became a great coach. Coaching requires a very different set of mental skills than does playing a sport. In addition, a great athlete often expects that others can perform at the same level as he or she did, and is incapable of understanding why that does not happen. Coaches need skills at preparation, teaching technical skills, teaching tactical skills, choosing the right player for the right position, how to make substitutes (who and when), how to motivate athletes with different attitudes and skills, how to change strategies that are not working, and how to pick the right players for a team such as a national team. Ferguson of Man U., Wenger of Arsenal, HIddink of the former PSV--all possess these skills and mindset qualities. van Basten does not--it is, in reality, that simple. I agree with others that van Basten does not now have a &quot;great&quot; team, but he does have a team with both potential and genuine talent. Ferguson, Wenger and Hiddink would make this current Netherlands team a much better team that van Basten does now. And, although I know that Jan disagrees, I also believe that de Haan would make this a better team as well. Why? Because de Haan does have these mental skills that create a high functioning football team. De Haan would, I believe, make different player choices, better position these athletes and use whatever formation worked best for the athletes on this particular team. van Basten does not have these gifts. That does not make him a bad person. He was a phenomenal football player. He will never be a great coach--but with rare exception is this combination ever found in sport. 

Therefore, I believe that until he leaves the national team, we will all continue to be frustrated by the obvious mistakes he continues to make and the disappointments lurking around the corner when these shortcomings result in the losses of important matches. In the meantime, I will continue to cheer for &quot;our&quot; team and hope for the best. The great part about sport is, we never know, maybe today we surprise everyone and win it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I sound like a &#8220;broken record&#8221; (American expression meaning to constantly repeat the same thing)but again the analogy to the American sport experience may be useful. It is rare here in the States that a great athlete becomes a great coach. The very best coaches have, generally, been athletes who played the sport at a reasonable level but, perhaps for the lack of physical talent, never achieved excellence or greatness. In the three major sports here, only Larry Bird and Bill Russell, great players, became top quality coaches. In football and baseball, I know of no great player who became a great coach. Coaching requires a very different set of mental skills than does playing a sport. In addition, a great athlete often expects that others can perform at the same level as he or she did, and is incapable of understanding why that does not happen. Coaches need skills at preparation, teaching technical skills, teaching tactical skills, choosing the right player for the right position, how to make substitutes (who and when), how to motivate athletes with different attitudes and skills, how to change strategies that are not working, and how to pick the right players for a team such as a national team. Ferguson of Man U., Wenger of Arsenal, HIddink of the former PSV&#8211;all possess these skills and mindset qualities. van Basten does not&#8211;it is, in reality, that simple. I agree with others that van Basten does not now have a &#8220;great&#8221; team, but he does have a team with both potential and genuine talent. Ferguson, Wenger and Hiddink would make this current Netherlands team a much better team that van Basten does now. And, although I know that Jan disagrees, I also believe that de Haan would make this a better team as well. Why? Because de Haan does have these mental skills that create a high functioning football team. De Haan would, I believe, make different player choices, better position these athletes and use whatever formation worked best for the athletes on this particular team. van Basten does not have these gifts. That does not make him a bad person. He was a phenomenal football player. He will never be a great coach&#8211;but with rare exception is this combination ever found in sport. </p>
<p>Therefore, I believe that until he leaves the national team, we will all continue to be frustrated by the obvious mistakes he continues to make and the disappointments lurking around the corner when these shortcomings result in the losses of important matches. In the meantime, I will continue to cheer for &#8220;our&#8221; team and hope for the best. The great part about sport is, we never know, maybe today we surprise everyone and win it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Derksen used the Albania example to further his crusade against Marco I guess... I don&#039;t think this was posted before... Putting players on the wrong spots is basically the main message...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Derksen used the Albania example to further his crusade against Marco I guess&#8230; I don&#8217;t think this was posted before&#8230; Putting players on the wrong spots is basically the main message&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??? Jan; did something go wrong...didnt you post this one before?? this is from after the Albania game! (or did you just wanna remind us of that terrible game?? haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??? Jan; did something go wrong&#8230;didnt you post this one before?? this is from after the Albania game! (or did you just wanna remind us of that terrible game?? haha</p>
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