We simply haven’t seen Oranje like this ever…

“Chris van Nijnatten – AD”.,his coloumn is good. but is it enough to win a major trophy?.i think 50%chance of winnig the trophy is in the hands of BVM and another 50% is in players hands.we need to imrpove our mental strengh,confidence and stamina of the palyers.and some player should give up their selfishness.BVM should feild the final eleven respective to the opponent like hiddink and pep Gardiyola.but frankly and with lots of pain with these diffenders(only three) we are not going to make it.stamina of our players are very poor.that will also afect our performance.

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BTW
It’s so ironic that 6 dutchies signed for Real, and now most of them gettng dumped, while Barca has none. I’d can only hope we’ll see another dutch Barca player soon. A former Real Madrid player going to Barca would be an awesome seer at Madrid. Although they still have Henry for the left, they’ll be looking to replace him in near future i guess, that leaves a lot of options open with versatile players as Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Toure. I have the feeling Zlatan will sign for Barca instead of Eto’o.
Ever thought of Sneijder to Manchester united, he could be their new main midfielder, cause Giggs, Scholes are at the end, Park can leave, Ronaldo just did, and Tevez will too. Though I think Huntelaar would make the best match with Man. united.
I’d love too see
Huntelaar-Manchester United/Arsenal
Robben-might stay, don’t know where he’ll fit, England might be too physically rough for him.
Sneijder-Atletico/Valencia(AC Milan perhaps)
V.d.Vaart-Bayern/Arsenal
V.Persie-Barcelona

Posted from  Netherlands

Best line up i can think of that we have that considers stability and team play:

————————-stekelenburg———————————–

—-Vanderweil——–Oijer—–matijsen————Braafeld————

——————-VanBommel———DeJong—————————–

——–Afellay————-Vandervaart————–Robben————-

—————————VanPersie————————————

Subs: sneijder kuyt huntelaar marcellis shaars

Posted from  Switzerland

@Marc

Picking Affelay over Kuyt or Sneijder doesn’t really fall under “team play” . At PSV he made a lot of assists, but for the national team he just always seems to dribble, even more than Robben.

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A tad unrelated, but I found this on another board and found it to be fairlly informative if anyone should be contemplating going to Jo’burg (as Oranje will camp there) in 2010. I am thinking about it (just thinking at the moment), but I have never been to SA before so I find this kind of information useful. Maybe someone else will find it useful too:

It’s always hard to know whether to bite my tongue or not when I see posts about SA and 2010…I currently live in northern Jo’burg so I have an idea of what its actually like on the ground. Have been here a year..typical that it was our best season and I didn’t get to see a home game. Anyway, there are a few things you have to remember about 2010.

1) It is the first one to be held in Africa. For those of you who have never been to the continent it is a great place. The people are really friendly, there is some amazing wildlife and countryside, and there is a real passion for football (especially the premiership). You can get most types of food, and the standard of life is pretty good. Plus it’s sunny virtually all the time.

2) South Africa is one of the most developed nations on the continent…if not the most developed. The stadiums are in the process of being made ready…I think there will be either 3 or 5 open for the confederations cup, which starts Sunday. This will be the best test towards how well 2010 will go.

3) There are all manner of new hotels being built, plus there are already many hotels in place, so accommodation is not going to be a major issue.

4) The transport is personally my biggest concern. There is a new bus system being put in place although it currently faces resistance from the local informal “taxi” system…this is where the troubles are. The taxi system is a cryptic beast to crack…there is no particular shelter or place to wait, the minibuses just rock up and pick people up on the side of the road…but unless you understand the hand signals and know the area and what suburbs link up then I would avoid it. There are “normal” taxis and they aren’t too bad…although they will possibly stick prices up for 2010.

Car hire is reasonable and a lot of people drive in SA. For football/rugby/cricket stadia, cars are then parked along side roads and local guys will, for a small fee, stand and watch a whole road of cars to make sure they don’t get robbed or broken into…houses around the stadia often charge for parking in their garden too. People park on the side of roads, pavements, in parks…the police aren’t as anal about that sort of thing as UK or US. Although for the Confed and 2010 there will be park and ride systems operated by officials round the stadia.

5) Safety – got to be the biggest concern for most people coming here. Sure, people live behind big walls with electric fences on top. And gun crime is an issue. I have a number of friends with stories to tell of being held up or broken into. But make no mistake the SA government is well aware of how this will stain the country’s reputation if fans are often mugged. They are not investing so much in making the event go smoothly (and they are investing) for it then to be screwed by a few street robbers. There will be a very strong police presence, even the army brought in. I’m not saying that there will be no crime, but can you honestly say there is no street crime in London, New York or Rome?

My personal opinion is: research where you are going before you come here. Sandton is the posh/relatively safe northern part of Joburg. If you can stick in a group of supporters traveling to the game, then do. If you’re going to see a few stadia, hire a car and drive. Don’t rely on public transport, unless its an organised tour. Yes keep your wits about you, but in the same way you wouldn’t walk around Brixton with a wedge of notes in your top pocket and a gold rolex on show. There is poverty and crime in the country, so do beware but most people are friendly and not looking to mug you…it’s taken me a year to realise that.

So yes, if you are looking to come over, good luck. And if you need to know more about SA let me know

Lmao according to my dad it could be bad for Dutch team/supporters in SA because of the slave trade. I’d like to think what he says is wrong.

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@Bart: Your father forgot to mention the Boer war and what came out of the back end of it.

I am not counting on much support from the “neutral” crowd, put it that way.

Thinking about it, Oranje vs South Africa would be something now wouldn’t it?

Lmao.. that might be quite the spectacle and I totally forgot about the Boer war. I am hoping no one goes crazy and starts killing anyone

Oh and

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9673382/Blatter-says-Ronaldo-transfer-good-for-the-game?forum_key=StoryComments&topic_key=9673382

.. seriously? wtf

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Hey Finnster, I thought South Africans understand Afrikaaner? which is related to Dutch right? Mutual intelligible?

I have always wondering about the differences between Dutch and German. For Dutch players in the Bundesliga, do they have a hard time understanding German? Or.. it’s like Portuguese and Spanish where both could somewhat understand each other.

Posted from  United States

Oranje_For_Life:

I speak Spanish and I don´t understand Portuguese at all. Perhaps two words out of ten thousand but basically that´s it. They sound similar but the grammar and pronuntiation is totally different. Although I have to tell you that the people who speak Portuguese can understand and speak easier the Spanish language…don´t know why.

Anyway, hope you all have a great weekend and keep in touch guys.

i have a newe video coming out soon anyone got any ideas for the music

Oranje for Life/ The reason Portuguese will understand Spanish better is because NO one understands Portuguese and they HAVE to pick up Spanish as half the world speaks Spanish. People say Dutch sounds like German but very few Germans speak Dutch but most Dutch people understand and can speak Geman. It’s a question of necessity. Thats why very few English mother tongue speakers know another language.

Posted from  Singapore

Good point Carlos!

Speaking of Germans, in Norway we have to do national service and I was on a ship in the navy. Once we visited Flensburg (which is where the German Naval Academy is), and one night off duty I went to watch the movies.

It was a Spaghetti Western with Clint Eastwood. Now it was the first time I had ever witnessed dubbing and it was unbelievable. I could actually live with Clint Eastwood speaking German, but when the Indians also spoke German I completely cracked up and got thrown out of the Theatre…

Jan and why did we learn English French and German at School ? Necessity !
And you are so right about subtitles in movies and TV. BTW the pioneer of Singapore is Lee Kuan Yew and he had Dutchman Winsemius as his prime Economic advisor. Apart from housing/airport/port/land reclamation, he also advocated ONE language for the Chinese and not 5 different dialects here. Now everyone speaks Mandarin and its a big plus for doing business in the soon to be biggest economy in the world – China.
Finn – LMAO !!!

Posted from  Singapore

@Carlos what is LMAO??plz let me know that.
@finn great post.

Posted from  India

It’s unbelievable, but I actually understand German quite well, I can’t speak it very fluently though. It’s quite usefull to know three languages. My french isn’t that good, to many complexe grammar rules there, and they talk too fast too understand proparly.
BTW we get some German tv channnels here, I think it’s pathetic, harry potter saying crazy spells in German.

Posted from  Netherlands

Will Holland have a new jersey from Nike in 2009-10 ? I believe they have been wearing the current version for at least 2 yrs.

Personally, i would favor a return to the orange/black combination from Euro 2000 etc

Posted from  United States

@Ghost – they’ll get a new kit before the World cup. Every team always gets a new cup before each major tournament.

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