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	<title>Comments on: We screwed up once before in Iceland!</title>
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	<description>World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands</description>
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		<title>By: Sol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friendly match against England? Nice! :)  I hope they&#039;re really gonna let us have it.

Line-up was the reason we didn&#039;t score too much against Iceland in the first half, no Huntelaar with his great finishing, no Huntelaar with Kuyt support in the second half (or any other support for that matter). Robben, Kuyt en to a lesser degree vPersie have NEVER been that good at finishing, so it&#039;s not really a surprise that you see Robben missing, VPersie hitting the post, Kuyt not that visible at all. There was clearly a final link missing.

Regardless, Robben should have made that 1v1 and he knows it.

vPersie always chooses the wrong spot to stand in, he combinated well with vdVaart though, but again, Huntelaar was missing to finish it off, and then you also see vdVaart trying to finish off the combinations, which again resulted in no goals because of less than excellent finishing.

vMarwijk choosing this starting line-up really worries me, as well as the way he substituted, bringing Huntelaar and taking out Kuyt has no use what so ever, both of them need to be on the field at the same time to get results. I think Kuyt en Huntelaar should both always be locked into the starting line-up if they&#039;re fit. vPersie probably should have been the one to suffer under vMarwijk&#039;s love-affair with vBommel. Nevertheless, vBommel played another good game, for me the man of the match was Mathijssen (followed closely by vdVaart).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friendly match against England? Nice! <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I hope they&#8217;re really gonna let us have it.</p>
<p>Line-up was the reason we didn&#8217;t score too much against Iceland in the first half, no Huntelaar with his great finishing, no Huntelaar with Kuyt support in the second half (or any other support for that matter). Robben, Kuyt en to a lesser degree vPersie have NEVER been that good at finishing, so it&#8217;s not really a surprise that you see Robben missing, VPersie hitting the post, Kuyt not that visible at all. There was clearly a final link missing.</p>
<p>Regardless, Robben should have made that 1v1 and he knows it.</p>
<p>vPersie always chooses the wrong spot to stand in, he combinated well with vdVaart though, but again, Huntelaar was missing to finish it off, and then you also see vdVaart trying to finish off the combinations, which again resulted in no goals because of less than excellent finishing.</p>
<p>vMarwijk choosing this starting line-up really worries me, as well as the way he substituted, bringing Huntelaar and taking out Kuyt has no use what so ever, both of them need to be on the field at the same time to get results. I think Kuyt en Huntelaar should both always be locked into the starting line-up if they&#8217;re fit. vPersie probably should have been the one to suffer under vMarwijk&#8217;s love-affair with vBommel. Nevertheless, vBommel played another good game, for me the man of the match was Mathijssen (followed closely by vdVaart).</p>
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		<title>By: Lights</title>
		<link>http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/we-screwed-up-once-before-in-iceland.html/comment-page-1#comment-165914</link>
		<dc:creator>Lights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Carlo,

And yes,i agree with you that Oranje didn&#039; t get a solid results in the past but i am quite confident now because after our team started to play 4-2-3-1 but still there are things to be fix.

1- The back 4 is not stable.I can imagine if oranje plays against big guns like Brazil,Argentina and Spain.

2- The keeper is kind of woody type.Hopefully i am wrong !

3- Consistency,mentality and Luck.

Anyway,looking forward to see how Oranje plays against England in 12/08/2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Carlo,</p>
<p>And yes,i agree with you that Oranje didn&#8217; t get a solid results in the past but i am quite confident now because after our team started to play 4-2-3-1 but still there are things to be fix.</p>
<p>1- The back 4 is not stable.I can imagine if oranje plays against big guns like Brazil,Argentina and Spain.</p>
<p>2- The keeper is kind of woody type.Hopefully i am wrong !</p>
<p>3- Consistency,mentality and Luck.</p>
<p>Anyway,looking forward to see how Oranje plays against England in 12/08/2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Van Basten man...Brazil has 5 World Cup Championships and they hardly have had a good goalie and good defenders...most of their best defenders attacked better that what they defended like Roberto Carlos, Carlos Alberto, Lucio, Cafú and now Alves, Maicon and Maxwell as many others. What wins tournaments is a balanced team with experience and youth and although you can have some weaknesses like Holland has in the defense if you manage to explode your strenghts you can win big games and tournaments.

For example, in Euro 2008 Holland showed that their attack is very dangerous and in defense we were not that bad. But when the team lost concentration they lost against Russia but not because of the defenders but because the whole team had a pretty bad day. I think that Oranje´s defense is not that bad and that we have many defenders who are experienced, we don´t have a Koeman or a De Boer but 1 goal in six games is not a bad record, don´t you think?.

I am dreaming of a final between Holland vs. Brazil or Holland vs. Spain in which Holland will win and be crowned for the first time as World Champions...at least dreaming is free! Hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van Basten man&#8230;Brazil has 5 World Cup Championships and they hardly have had a good goalie and good defenders&#8230;most of their best defenders attacked better that what they defended like Roberto Carlos, Carlos Alberto, Lucio, Cafú and now Alves, Maicon and Maxwell as many others. What wins tournaments is a balanced team with experience and youth and although you can have some weaknesses like Holland has in the defense if you manage to explode your strenghts you can win big games and tournaments.</p>
<p>For example, in Euro 2008 Holland showed that their attack is very dangerous and in defense we were not that bad. But when the team lost concentration they lost against Russia but not because of the defenders but because the whole team had a pretty bad day. I think that Oranje´s defense is not that bad and that we have many defenders who are experienced, we don´t have a Koeman or a De Boer but 1 goal in six games is not a bad record, don´t you think?.</p>
<p>I am dreaming of a final between Holland vs. Brazil or Holland vs. Spain in which Holland will win and be crowned for the first time as World Champions&#8230;at least dreaming is free! Hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Van Basten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van Basten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iceland&#039;s goal against Oranje is proof that our denfense is our Achilles&#039; heel.We did not even mark their players, and allowed to roam freely and score. &quot;Defense Wins Championships&quot;...and ours sucks, if we even have one. 
I hope and pray this is not the way we play in South Africa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iceland&#8217;s goal against Oranje is proof that our denfense is our Achilles&#8217; heel.We did not even mark their players, and allowed to roam freely and score. &#8220;Defense Wins Championships&#8221;&#8230;and ours sucks, if we even have one.<br />
I hope and pray this is not the way we play in South Africa!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys the goals with our favourite  Goooooooooooooooooooooooool commentary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li6pPx8K3u4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys the goals with our favourite  Goooooooooooooooooooooooool commentary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li6pPx8K3u4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li6pPx8K3u4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goose buddy - great to have your analysis back man !

Yes it was a weak group but hold on lets just check back a few years.
1. We couldn&#039;t beat Macedonia last WC qualifiers - virtually same team +vGol and Sar
2. Scotland beat us at Home for the qualifier
3. Norway finished ahead of us the last time we were in the same group.

So Kudos Bert and the gang - Well done. Now I have a problem. 
Should I accept my friends Cape Town stay invitaton ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goose buddy &#8211; great to have your analysis back man !</p>
<p>Yes it was a weak group but hold on lets just check back a few years.<br />
1. We couldn&#8217;t beat Macedonia last WC qualifiers &#8211; virtually same team +vGol and Sar<br />
2. Scotland beat us at Home for the qualifier<br />
3. Norway finished ahead of us the last time we were in the same group.</p>
<p>So Kudos Bert and the gang &#8211; Well done. Now I have a problem.<br />
Should I accept my friends Cape Town stay invitaton ???</p>
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		<title>By: Lights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we know in history,Oranje is a very powerful football team.The things that we need are consistency and mentality.Flipping back to old book&#039;s pages,i m still kind of worry though presently our team is playing superbly.I really hope Oranje can take the cup in Africa next year.

Another thing that i am worrying is our keeper,i don&#039; t have the confident in him totally.Too bad Sar is not showing interest for a return.Let&#039;s hope that 2010 the draw is no longer a group of death for us..Beside  consistency and mentality,luck is what we need too :)

Finally,we r in the World Cup 2010,yesssss !!!

~~~Hup Hup Holland,viva forever ~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we know in history,Oranje is a very powerful football team.The things that we need are consistency and mentality.Flipping back to old book&#8217;s pages,i m still kind of worry though presently our team is playing superbly.I really hope Oranje can take the cup in Africa next year.</p>
<p>Another thing that i am worrying is our keeper,i don&#8217; t have the confident in him totally.Too bad Sar is not showing interest for a return.Let&#8217;s hope that 2010 the draw is no longer a group of death for us..Beside  consistency and mentality,luck is what we need too <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Finally,we r in the World Cup 2010,yesssss !!!</p>
<p>~~~Hup Hup Holland,viva forever ~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeroen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex,

On three occasions I saw Heitinga trying to distribute the ball from the back, only to play it straight into the feet of one of the attacking midfielders. Against Iceland, you dont notice this so much. Against someone like Messi or Ribery, playing the ball into their feet from the defence in YOUR third of the field and they will PUNISH you. I saw much less threat from the right side with Heitinga instead of VdW. 

I think van der vaart was the player of the match. van bommel played another terrific game. hes really surprising me. no red cards so far.

more analysis tomorrow when im not so tired haha. had to celebrate the victory in style....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex,</p>
<p>On three occasions I saw Heitinga trying to distribute the ball from the back, only to play it straight into the feet of one of the attacking midfielders. Against Iceland, you dont notice this so much. Against someone like Messi or Ribery, playing the ball into their feet from the defence in YOUR third of the field and they will PUNISH you. I saw much less threat from the right side with Heitinga instead of VdW. </p>
<p>I think van der vaart was the player of the match. van bommel played another terrific game. hes really surprising me. no red cards so far.</p>
<p>more analysis tomorrow when im not so tired haha. had to celebrate the victory in style&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ejb</title>
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		<dc:creator>ejb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>defense and goalie are going to be their downfall in 2010


i think the announcer said &#039;this will clearly be 3-0&#039; atleast 3 times when robben was 1v1 with the keeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>defense and goalie are going to be their downfall in 2010</p>
<p>i think the announcer said &#8216;this will clearly be 3-0&#8242; atleast 3 times when robben was 1v1 with the keeper.</p>
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		<title>By: Van Basten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van Basten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have yet to be tested...I am skeptical...but we ought to have friendlies against the contenders thats the only real test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have yet to be tested&#8230;I am skeptical&#8230;but we ought to have friendlies against the contenders thats the only real test.</p>
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