Comments on: Van Persie leads Oranje to victory http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:30:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Andrew http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160998 Andrew Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:16:55 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160998 Jan, Yes, I remember you mentioning El Ahmadi in an earlier post. Comparing him to Redondo is high praise indeed. Ghost, Many thanks for the info. on Emanuelson. By all accounts he is playing well. (Any other regular Ajax watchers care to comment?) Always liked his physical skills and energy, but I never really saw him as a left back. Jan, Yes, I remember you mentioning El Ahmadi in an earlier post. Comparing him to Redondo is high praise indeed.
Ghost, Many thanks for the info. on Emanuelson. By all accounts he is playing well. (Any other regular Ajax watchers care to comment?) Always liked his physical skills and energy, but I never really saw him as a left back.

]]> By: ghost of steve finnan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160996 ghost of steve finnan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:05:37 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160996 @Andrew, the last 6 games or so, Ajax has used Urby as an attacker, either from left mid or up front on the left wing (They've had alot of forwards go down). MVB seems to favor Jan Vertoghnen of Belgium at left back (even though he's not a defender, really) and Urby at left mid for now. @Andrew, the last 6 games or so, Ajax has used Urby as an attacker, either from left mid or up front on the left wing (They’ve had alot of forwards go down). MVB seems to favor Jan Vertoghnen of Belgium at left back (even though he’s not a defender, really) and Urby at left mid for now.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160993 Jan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:01:27 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160993 Good point Andrew! I do feel El Ahmadi (Feyenoord) will be the man. I mean it. Redondo quality. Albeit "potentially" of course. Good point Andrew! I do feel El Ahmadi (Feyenoord) will be the man. I mean it. Redondo quality. Albeit “potentially” of course.

]]> By: tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160987 tiju Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:45:53 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160987 @mo,fini,carlos and others Definitly we can meet brazil in final but we have to avoid portugal and gus hiddinks team(whether its russia that doesnt matter)at the same time brazil shouldnot face france.they will kill them,then there is chance of brazil holland final @mo,fini,carlos and others
Definitly we can meet brazil in final but we have to avoid portugal and gus hiddinks team(whether its russia that doesnt matter)at the same time brazil shouldnot face france.they will kill them,then there is chance of brazil holland final

]]> By: Andrew http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160986 Andrew Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:38:41 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160986 Not going to disagree with you Jan, except to say that I think Oranje could use more depth in the holding midfield players. I know that some have the opinion that Van Bommel has not distinguished himself in the qualifiers, but I do think that in the 4-2-3-1, he was the missing piece from the Euro's. Engelaar didn't look like he had the strength or the skill to hold the ball when the Russian went at him; De Jong did well but he was left alone to try to deal with the aggression of the Russians, and he doesn't have the passing skills of MVB to make teams pay for committing to pressure in the midfield. I think MVB gives them both. But what if one of them (ala De Jong now) is hurt. Who steps in? Not sure that De Zeuw has the physical stature to stand in there. If Schaars is back and playing well perhaps he is the answer. Or maybe Emanuelson? I don't see Ajax play enough to know where they're playing him, but it always seemed to me that he would fit well as one of "2"s. Not going to disagree with you Jan, except to say that I think Oranje could use more depth in the holding midfield players. I know that some have the opinion that Van Bommel has not distinguished himself in the qualifiers, but I do think that in the 4-2-3-1, he was the missing piece from the Euro’s. Engelaar didn’t look like he had the strength or the skill to hold the ball when the Russian went at him; De Jong did well but he was left alone to try to deal with the aggression of the Russians, and he doesn’t have the passing skills of MVB to make teams pay for committing to pressure in the midfield. I think MVB gives them both. But what if one of them (ala De Jong now) is hurt. Who steps in? Not sure that De Zeuw has the physical stature to stand in there. If Schaars is back and playing well perhaps he is the answer. Or maybe Emanuelson? I don’t see Ajax play enough to know where they’re playing him, but it always seemed to me that he would fit well as one of “2″s.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160985 Jan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:21:54 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160985 I haven't seen the game myself guys, only the high lights. On the depth thing: I do feel we're doing ok. No team in Europe has 22 equal players. We have KJH, Drenthe, Afellay, Seedorf, Wijnaldum, Zuiverloon, Donk, Marcellis, Van der Wiel, Kromkamp, Boateng, Vorm, Timmer, Landzaat, De Guzman and many others... I'm not too fussed. We don't need one or two more great players to win titles. We need the discipline and focus to deliver 100% every match without in-fighting. I haven’t seen the game myself guys, only the high lights.

On the depth thing: I do feel we’re doing ok. No team in Europe has 22 equal players. We have KJH, Drenthe, Afellay, Seedorf, Wijnaldum, Zuiverloon, Donk, Marcellis, Van der Wiel, Kromkamp, Boateng, Vorm, Timmer, Landzaat, De Guzman and many others… I’m not too fussed.

We don’t need one or two more great players to win titles. We need the discipline and focus to deliver 100% every match without in-fighting.

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160984 Mario Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:01:29 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160984 Finnster: I know the World Cup will not start now but I also have hopes and I have always dreamed about that final. Anyway, this time I am very confident we will qualify easily. Norway and Scotland are not rivals for Oranje nor the other teams in our group we are too strong for them. Finnster:

I know the World Cup will not start now but I also have hopes and I have always dreamed about that final. Anyway, this time I am very confident we will qualify easily. Norway and Scotland are not rivals for Oranje nor the other teams in our group we are too strong for them.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160983 Carlos Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:50:59 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160983 hahaha Ian ! Good comment on the "we won't miss you" tag for our defenders. hahaha Ian ! Good comment on the “we won’t miss you” tag for our defenders.

]]> By: ian wilkie http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160982 ian wilkie Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:52:47 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160982 Michel-Olivier - we have no depth cant disagree more in forwards we have the options of the scoring ruthlesness of huntelaar, the effort of kuyt and the skill of van persie in creative midfielders we have van der vaart, sneijder robben babel afellay and kuyt or van persie if their not forwards. In attack if someone gets injured we have perfect coverage and in defense we have no one good enough for them to be a big loss anyways. Michel-Olivier – we have no depth

cant disagree more

in forwards we have the options of the scoring ruthlesness of huntelaar, the effort of kuyt and the skill of van persie

in creative midfielders we have van der vaart, sneijder robben babel afellay and kuyt or van persie if their not forwards. In attack if someone gets injured we have perfect coverage and in defense we have no one good enough for them to be a big loss anyways.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html/comment-page-1#comment-160981 Carlos Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:06:26 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/van-persie-leads-oranje-to-victory.html#comment-160981 Goose - thanks for the highlights -goals :) Kuyt's goal was a typical RVN style to sneak n front of the defender as the ball is being crossed. Defenders can do little against that millisecond lost space. Goose – thanks for the highlights -goals :)
Kuyt’s goal was a typical RVN style to sneak n front of the defender as the ball is being crossed. Defenders can do little against that millisecond lost space.

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