Transfers….

Ive heard that Feyenoord still pays about half Lazovic wage or so, and that it makes him the higest waged player in Feyenoord even if he doesnt play there.

I hope Feyenoord will come back strong shortly. It is crucial for the Netherlands to have Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord in good shape and now with Alkmaar have 4 top teams. I do hope next year a better luck for them, with Adrianesse they can do much better than with Erwin Koeman who showed he has no future as a coach.

I reelly think Erwin Koeman was a good coach. I think Feyenoord is very bad club. All good people get hurt at Feyennoord, look van Persie, Gullit, Buffel, Ghali, Ono. Feyenoord sick club and I hope Co Adriaansen will go to other club, in Spain he is popular. I don’t like that people are so critical for big players like Marco van Basten and Erwin Koeman.

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Ishmael:

Are you gonna keep saying those things???. You do not like people who are so critical for big players like van Basten and Koeman???!!! Haha, man, their time as players is totally gone, that´s history. Now they are coaches and if they do not offer results for their teams their past as players has nothing to do with their results nowadays as coaches. And van Basten and Koeman for me have not showed any type of skills to be succesful as coaches. This year Feyenoord was smashed in many games by scores of 5-1 and so on. And van Basten has had good qualifications with Holland but at the big stage, the World Cup, he failed badly, very bad choices and decisions. He benched Ruud the whole game when Holland needed goals, my friend, I will be critical with them because as a players they were great, but as coaches they are not!. Why should I be shy and not say what I think about if I am seeing so many bad decicions by these two men???. Please, is nothing personal, but van Basten and Koeman are the worst coaches I have seen in a very long time. They need to go to high school, then to College and then come back because today they show how bad managers are. To be a good coach takes a lot of study, hard work and years of experiencie and neither van Basten and Erwin Koeman have that today, please, do not defend them, they are very bad coaches!

Even Advocaat was better hehe!

I totally agree with Mario.
I haven’t followed Feyenord that much but by only looking at their results there has to be something wrong with the coaching staff.
In the other hand I have followed the Dutch National Team for quite a long time and this has been the worst I’ve seen them play. Marco has made some very bad decisions and mostly those bad decisions have gone to the top players of the team (Nistelrooy, Davids, Seedorf, Makaay, Huntelaar, Bommel).
I respect them and admire them AS PLAYERS, specially Marco of course, he is a legend as a player.
You have to look at this as 2 stories:
1) Marco the player
In the 1st story Marco is the heroe, the good one
2) Marco the coach
But in the 2nd story Marco is the villian.
We have to separate the present with the past because he is destroying the Dutch football.
He is destroying international careers. I remember van Nistelrooy saying in an interview 5 or 6 months before the WK that he couldn’t sleep because all he was thinking about was the WK and also Seedorf saying that he has won everything with his clubs and that he wanted to be champion with the Netherlands.
I know it is hard for us to be critical with our idols and for much time I was also blind saying all Marco’s decisions were right. Example: not including Seedorf, Bommel and Huntelaar for the WK. But when he benched Ruud in the Portugal game I knew right away that we were going to lose.
Marco didn’t use Ruud even as a sub, that shows he only thinks of himself and doesn’t respect the fans, I say this because we waited 8 year for a WK.
What would have been the WK with Bommel, Seedorf, Huntelaar, Makaay, Davids, Nistelrooy?????????.
We have to be critical.

I just want to say that I fully admire Marco for what he has done in the past, he is one of my great idols but I have also players who I like very much and I want them to be playing and helping the Netherlands

In the beginning vanBasten had much extra credit cause of his history as a great, great player (and great soldier for Oranje), the press and the public was always very nice in the beginning.. we all thought it would be a fresh start..even when we played like shit we couldnt say anything cause we were winning…but during the WC the true lack of quality showed… about vanBastens people-management skills enough had been said already (but ill say it again..he doenst have any..hes as cold as a very frozen snowman, players who have worked with managers like Hiddink have difficulties settling under vanBasten (vanB, vanN,etc.)
the fact is i really dont care what our bondscoach did as a player, for all i care he could have been a driving instructur in the past… its the results and the way we play that counts, nothing else

gtrz

Marco van BASTA

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I think Van Basten has a good vision. I just trust that. And I trust in Johan Cruyff. If he says Marco is good, he is not lying because why would he?? That would be stupid. So, I think:
1. Dutch players are not so good as you groupies think
2. Soemthing happened between Basten – Bommel and Basten – Ruud that Marco doesn’t want the world to know.

How can you else explain what happend? Sometimes you need to let your best players know who’s the boss ok? And sometimes players are to full of themselve and then you need to be hard on them. There is no I in team is a saying I learned from my father. We need to trust Marco. Rinus Michels didn’t trust in Marco in 1988. And he proved everyone wrong with his goals. Now we must trust Marco.

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hey guys, there`s big rumours going round that Co Adriaanse has been approached by Manchester City to be next season`s manager. This is subject to a multi million pound takeover…….It`s supposed to be between Ranieri and Adriaanse with Van Gaal as a possibility and Felix Magath.

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I wanted to have faith with Marco but he showed a lack of respect for Dutch fans when he went to the World Cup without the strongest players available.

He left out from the team these players:
1-Seedorf
2-van Bommel
3-Davids
4-Huntelaar
5-Makaay

He did not use Kromkamp and played Heitinga, Boulahrouz and Jaliens as right backs when the first two are not right backs and Jaliens is not a very good player.

And then omitting Ruud for the big game vs Portugal!!!.

My friend Ishmael, I really hope van Basten have success as a manager and we all like him because of what he did as a player. For his personal glory perhaps you may watch his videos on youtube.com. Yes, Michels showed confidence in him but as a player he was a great player. But as a coach he is extremely poor. He does not have a clue how to manage players and guiding a national team is a huge task that only should be handed for top a recognized coaches who have won trophies at club level. van Basten has no previous experiencie as a coach and I do not see him getting better, he is getting worse so I would really like to learn the job but with a club, out of Oranje.
Holland players lack quality???
Well, I think Robben, van Persie, van Bommel, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Kuyt, Seedorf, Huntelaar, Sneijder, van der Vaart, Heitinga, etc, are pretty good players. Maybe you like some other players but I am sure this players can improve a team, if not ask Real Madrid with Ruud or Liverpool what they think of their Dutch signings. Anyway, I like Ishmael opinions but I disagree with him because now he is only focusing on van Basten the player and not the coach.
I am from México, today México´s national coach is Hugo Sánchez. Hugo was an outstanding goal scorer, he won 5 pichichis with Real Madrid and many titles as a player.
Like 7 years ago Hugo said he wanted to be the coach of México´s national team and that if he was given that task he would make México World Champions. Here in my land everybody started laughing about it and Hugo kept saying he was gonna be the coach of México. The Mexican Federation said that first Hugo would have to show his skills as a coach and then if he proves himself he would be the man for the job because of his past as a player, he is the best player México has produced in history.
What happened???. Hugo then started his career as a coach. Hugo is a man who is a little bit irritating because he has a very strong mentalily but talks too much. When he became coach he won the Ligas in México consecutively and that was quite a record because no team in México had done that for quite a while and Hugo made that as a coach. After the 2006 World Cup Hugo was appointed national coach but with a lot of experiencie as a coach and with trophies with him as a coach as his best argument.

Now he keeps saying that México will be World Champions at 2010 and the expectations are high here in México but let me tell you that the press is being rough with him and if he loses even a friendly the pressure will be strong for him. So far he is doing a good job and in the Copa América he will have his biggest task so far and if he is not champion the pressure will increase and here nobody cares what he did as a player because he has a target of being World Champions as he says and although people do not believe México is capable of that everybody is talking about Hugo the coach, not the player. If he fails he will be sacked for sure and with San Marco we are being too soft, he should be gone right now, he is working extra hours, I want him out, he already failed miserably at the World Cup, are we gonna wait another big scenerario for a ridiculous display???. I don´t, I love Holland and I am aware we have a team who still needs more experiencie to be a strong candidate for tournaments but with van Basten we are way far, not because the players, we have the material but if the commander in chief does not know what to with it then nothing will work out.

Hugo won two ligas consecutively in México.

Good post MArio and interesting too. I never really got a good view on the Mexican competition although I know Westerhof and Beenhakker worked there and I am a big fan of your central defender… Marquez, right? Interesting comparison with Marco van B.

I agree that Ishmael is a dreamer and maybe not so eloquent in getting his point across. But as I wrote earlier on, I do feel a large portion of Dutch football fans (and mind you: there are a lot of “passive” Oranje fans, who already get an erection if they see that strange dude in his orange outfit on the stands, you know that lion/indian guy…). I truly think some people think San Marco has a Golden Dick and it will all be fine in the end.

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