Comments on: The Specialist: The Cross http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:05:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bobotoh http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166549 bobotoh Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:03:52 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166549 I cannot find any news about Drenthe moving to Fiorentina, I have been so busy lately :-). Is it official? It is good for any footaballers to play regularly, not just by sitting on the bench. I cannot find any news about Drenthe moving to Fiorentina, I have been so busy lately :-) . Is it official? It is good for any footaballers to play regularly, not just by sitting on the bench.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166545 Jan Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:46:01 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166545 I think Donk will be back! Adrie Koster is ideal coach for him at Club. I think Donk will be back! Adrie Koster is ideal coach for him at Club.

]]> By: Mohamed http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166544 Mohamed Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:39:38 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166544 @ alex ... Amazing ! But also we havd to add drenthe .. Hope he can gain his form in italy with fiorntina .. He is strong enough to play in calcio , and he is really talented .. Just need a good coach who can work on his talent to be one of the best players in the world ... also daniel de ridder and marvin emnes .. Amazing wingers with unbelivable skills .. but i felt sad for donk ! I think he put an end to his career by this move =''C @ alex … Amazing !
But also we havd to add drenthe .. Hope he can gain his form in italy with fiorntina .. He is strong enough to play in calcio , and he is really talented .. Just need a good coach who can work on his talent to be one of the best players in the world …

also daniel de ridder and marvin emnes .. Amazing wingers with unbelivable skills ..

but i felt sad for donk !
I think he put an end to his career by this move =”C

]]> By: Alex http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166541 Alex Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:54:16 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166541 V.Bommel can easily make it through to the WC, after that however, Schaars, De Zeeuw and co might be heavily knocking at his door. V.Bommel can easily make it through to the WC, after that however, Schaars, De Zeeuw and co might be heavily knocking at his door.

]]> By: Alex http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166540 Alex Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:50:23 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166540 I can be very clear on this The only possible real weaknesses i see are Ooijer and Gio. the best attacking talents are Afellay, Elia right now, and besides them we still have De Guzman, Emanuelson, Beerens, V.Wolfswinkel, Nijland, Donald, Sarpong, Wijnaldum, Amrabat, Biseswar, Vejinovic, Barazite, Castaignos, Geert-arend Roorda, Fer, Ozyakup, Isoufi, Castillion, Rodney Sneijder. That's a lot of talent available, whoever does best at the moment should be selected, and at this moment that are Afellay and Elia, actually Babel is neck on neck with Elia . Emanuelson and such come close, but not close enough. About defensive players Marcellis and v.d.Wiel are without a doubt the most consistent young defenders we have right now. -Donk didn't live up to his promise, now joined Belgian Club Brugge and can still succeed, but it's looking more and more like he's not. -Vlaar is in my eyes still a posssible world class defender, if he can return on his former level from horrible muscle injuries, though now still only 24 so that's an advantage. -Loovens is doing good at Celtic, and is close to a spot in oranje. -Maduro developed phenominally at Valencia but according to some people i spoke, you can still see he's not a natural defender, though, he is only 23/24 so that might just be our next Rijkaard. -Luirink is already 25/26 and back from serious injuries, it can go either way, we'll know in two years whether or not he can get back to impress. -Zuiverloon, amazed everyone in PL, but his performances dropped and his future is stil doubtful, but playing in championship won't do his career any good. -Pieters is promising, but dissapointing ever since moving to PSV, still only 21. Besides them, there are some other talented young defenders, but who have yet to really show if they have what it takes Janmaat, V.Eijden, Ter Horst, V.Aanholt, Bruma, Blind, Hiariej, Nieveld, Wormgoor, Kuipers So my conclusion, talents have to earn their spot and at the moment, V.d.Wiel, Marcellis, Afellay, Babel and Elia have already been in the selection, and they deserved it. I stand by V.Marwijk that a player should do well and be consistent for more than just half a season, preferably 2 seasons. so the most realistic possibilities for the WC could be Attackingly, Emanuelson and Beerens are the best of the rest right now, behind them the whole bunch of V.Wolfswinkel, Wijnaldum and such. Defensivaly, if Maduro, Loovens, Zuiverloon(if he can play in a decent league) really impress all season long, they are the biggest contenders \. Vlaar would be too, were it not that we have absolutely no clue how he'll come out of recovery and nobody wants to rush things, same with Luirink. BTW, I've given up on Kruiswijk, Tiendalli, Koenders, and I think Bakkal and Luijckx could be added to that if they don't improve significantly next seasons. I can be very clear on this
The only possible real weaknesses i see are Ooijer and Gio.

the best attacking talents are Afellay, Elia right now, and besides them we still have De Guzman, Emanuelson, Beerens, V.Wolfswinkel, Nijland, Donald, Sarpong, Wijnaldum, Amrabat, Biseswar, Vejinovic, Barazite, Castaignos, Geert-arend Roorda, Fer, Ozyakup, Isoufi, Castillion, Rodney Sneijder. That’s a lot of talent available, whoever does best at the moment should be selected, and at this moment that are Afellay and Elia, actually Babel is neck on neck with Elia . Emanuelson and such come close, but not close enough.

About defensive players

Marcellis and v.d.Wiel are without a doubt the most consistent young defenders we have right now.

-Donk didn’t live up to his promise, now joined Belgian Club Brugge and can still succeed, but it’s looking more and more like he’s not.
-Vlaar is in my eyes still a posssible world class defender, if he can return on his former level from horrible muscle injuries, though now still only 24 so that’s an advantage.
-Loovens is doing good at Celtic, and is close to a spot in oranje.
-Maduro developed phenominally at Valencia but according to some people i spoke, you can still see he’s not a natural defender, though, he is only 23/24 so that might just be our next Rijkaard.
-Luirink is already 25/26 and back from serious injuries, it can go either way, we’ll know in two years whether or not he can get back to impress.
-Zuiverloon, amazed everyone in PL, but his performances dropped and his future is stil doubtful, but playing in championship won’t do his career any good.
-Pieters is promising, but dissapointing ever since moving to PSV, still only 21.
Besides them, there are some other talented young defenders, but who have yet to really show if they have what it takes Janmaat, V.Eijden, Ter Horst, V.Aanholt, Bruma, Blind, Hiariej, Nieveld, Wormgoor, Kuipers

So my conclusion, talents have to earn their spot and at the moment, V.d.Wiel, Marcellis, Afellay, Babel and Elia have already been in the selection, and they deserved it. I stand by V.Marwijk that a player should do well and be consistent for more than just half a season, preferably 2 seasons.

so the most realistic possibilities for the WC could be
Attackingly, Emanuelson and Beerens are the best of the rest right now, behind them the whole bunch of V.Wolfswinkel, Wijnaldum and such.

Defensivaly, if Maduro, Loovens, Zuiverloon(if he can play in a decent league) really impress all season long, they are the biggest contenders \. Vlaar would be too, were it not that we have absolutely no clue how he’ll come out of recovery and nobody wants to rush things, same with Luirink.

BTW, I’ve given up on Kruiswijk, Tiendalli, Koenders, and I think Bakkal and Luijckx could be added to that if they don’t improve significantly next seasons.

]]> By: sandesh http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166539 sandesh Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:54:31 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166539 i almost forgot that there is a guy called emanuelson. thanks guys for reminding me of that ajax guy. i think he is good moving forward, plays as a holding mid as well for ajax (most of the time last season). i hope he gets recalled in the team he can be a good backup for left back, left mid and defensive mid. how bout mathijsen, castelen, RVDV? are these guys leaving their clubs?? i almost forgot that there is a guy called emanuelson. thanks guys for reminding me of that ajax guy. i think he is good moving forward, plays as a holding mid as well for ajax (most of the time last season). i hope he gets recalled in the team he can be a good backup for left back, left mid and defensive mid.
how bout mathijsen, castelen, RVDV? are these guys leaving their clubs??

]]> By: Tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166538 Tiju Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:35:20 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166538 @orange for life Bouma's injury is heavy somebody in this blog stated earlier.i too read that in some articles about seriousness of his injury. @orange for life
Bouma’s injury is heavy somebody in this blog stated earlier.i too read that in some articles about seriousness of his injury.

]]> By: Tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166537 Tiju Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:32:48 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166537 @Emmanuelson is very weak in diffencive duties and also he needs some physical strengh for that post.At present he is too far away from the spot.But his versatality can be used in mdifeild especially in holding mid ie like a buildup player from the back. So idaelly i prefer Schaars Dejong De saaw Emmanuelson as my Holding fours depending on current form.i am not happy with vanbommels attitude it may create some problem in the team.thats why i am droping him. @Emmanuelson is very weak in diffencive duties and also he needs some physical strengh for that post.At present he is too far away from the spot.But his versatality can be used in mdifeild especially in holding mid ie like a buildup player from the back.
So idaelly i prefer
Schaars
Dejong
De saaw
Emmanuelson as my Holding fours depending on current form.i am not happy with vanbommels attitude it may create some problem in the team.thats why i am droping him.

]]> By: Mohamed http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166536 Mohamed Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:07:13 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166536 @tiju , agree with you no place for gio ,heitinga and ooijer we need high quality players like donk , maduro , vlaar and mercellis with boulahrouz and zuiverloon btw donk is back to az alkmaar .. I wish he can gain his form as CB again But tiju .. I think emanuelson is better as a lt. back and drenthe can play as a DMF .. I'm pretty sure he will do well in fiorintina @tiju , agree with you
no place for gio ,heitinga and ooijer
we need high quality players like donk , maduro , vlaar and mercellis with boulahrouz and zuiverloon
btw donk is back to az alkmaar .. I wish he can gain his form as CB again
But tiju .. I think emanuelson is better as a lt. back
and drenthe can play as a DMF .. I’m pretty sure he will do well in fiorintina

]]> By: Mohamed http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html/comment-page-1#comment-166535 Mohamed Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:50:47 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/the-specialist-the-cross.html#comment-166535 @ alaa .. You also forgot players like elia & drenthe , if drenthe can gain his form again with fiorintina .. He will be like davids .. I still remember drenthe in u21 championship i felt this guy will be the best in the world one day .. So , we can say drenthe = davids bommel = cocu schaars = jonk robben = overmars persie > zenden huntelaar= kluivert bergkamp > kuyt vaart > seedorf sneijder > r. De boer elia > hoijdonk babel > hasselbaink stek > sar 98 de jong = witer emanuelson > numan brafhied > gio who is better ? As i said .. We only have to work on defence and this team can be better ! @ alaa .. You also forgot players like elia & drenthe ,
if drenthe can gain his form again with fiorintina .. He will be like davids ..
I still remember drenthe in u21 championship
i felt this guy will be the best in the world one day ..
So , we can say
drenthe = davids
bommel = cocu
schaars = jonk
robben = overmars
persie > zenden
huntelaar= kluivert
bergkamp > kuyt
vaart > seedorf
sneijder > r. De boer
elia > hoijdonk
babel > hasselbaink
stek > sar 98
de jong = witer
emanuelson > numan
brafhied > gio

who is better ?
As i said .. We only have to work on defence and this team can be better !

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