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		<title>By: goose</title>
		<link>http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/seedorf-still-learns-every-day.html/comment-page-1#comment-74720</link>
		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 11:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan, great stories mate...heared about the vanHanegem story, he was the one person who could realise such a thing at Feyenoord (still think they need him right now!)..never really realised how bad Cruijffs ankle was..saw an item on tv when he turned 60 the other day and they interview the guy who treated him at Feyenoord, he had all these machine wich he made himself and Cruyff was at his place almost all of the time...this guy sais Cruijff never played without pain from the age of 22 and he could play without injections when he was older... imagion; a 100% fit Cruijff would even be better...
really hate it that i never saw him play</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan, great stories mate&#8230;heared about the vanHanegem story, he was the one person who could realise such a thing at Feyenoord (still think they need him right now!)..never really realised how bad Cruijffs ankle was..saw an item on tv when he turned 60 the other day and they interview the guy who treated him at Feyenoord, he had all these machine wich he made himself and Cruyff was at his place almost all of the time&#8230;this guy sais Cruijff never played without pain from the age of 22 and he could play without injections when he was older&#8230; imagion; a 100% fit Cruijff would even be better&#8230;<br />
really hate it that i never saw him play</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 10:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back Sphinx-meister :-).

Did I ever see JC play live? I surely did! I saw him play at Ajax (although I was pretty young), I saw the WC74 when I was 12 (man did that make an impact) and I saw him play for Feyenoord, my team. I was there when JC had his first training at Feyenoord. 10.000 people around the pitch. I was what, 22 years old? I was mates with Feyenoord&#039;s 2nd goalie. When JC was signed, some players said they&#039;d show him how they played in Rotterdam (meaning rough). The first ball for JC was followed by a flying tackle. JC jumped up and didn&#039;t flinch. Second ball for JC, he handled the ball and then hit a Feyenoord player (can&#039;t remember who, probably Ben Wijnnstekers) pretty hard. The crowd cheered and from that moment on, nobody tried anything anymore. His right ankle was hurt so bad in these days that he only used his right leg/foot to stand on. Did everything with his &quot;weaker&quot; left. I saw most Feyenoord matches live, that season. Man, was he good! Only thing I didn&#039;t like was that he kept Andrej Jeliazkov benched - he thought the Bulgarian striker was tactically not good enough - who was one of my fave players... Anyway...long time ago :-).

I remember Willem Van Hanegem&#039;s farewell game pretty well. That was at the end of the season before JC&#039;s season. JC was a guestplayer at Feyenoord then, but there were rumours about JC signing for Feyenoord. Most fans were against, but Willem was pro. So during the match, it was obvious that Willem did everything to allow JC to score for Feyenoord. Which he did (header). After the match, Willem said he thought it looked good to see JC score in the Feyenoord colors. From that moment on, Rotterdam embraced JC. Stop me if I&#039;m ranting, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back Sphinx-meister <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Did I ever see JC play live? I surely did! I saw him play at Ajax (although I was pretty young), I saw the WC74 when I was 12 (man did that make an impact) and I saw him play for Feyenoord, my team. I was there when JC had his first training at Feyenoord. 10.000 people around the pitch. I was what, 22 years old? I was mates with Feyenoord&#8217;s 2nd goalie. When JC was signed, some players said they&#8217;d show him how they played in Rotterdam (meaning rough). The first ball for JC was followed by a flying tackle. JC jumped up and didn&#8217;t flinch. Second ball for JC, he handled the ball and then hit a Feyenoord player (can&#8217;t remember who, probably Ben Wijnnstekers) pretty hard. The crowd cheered and from that moment on, nobody tried anything anymore. His right ankle was hurt so bad in these days that he only used his right leg/foot to stand on. Did everything with his &#8220;weaker&#8221; left. I saw most Feyenoord matches live, that season. Man, was he good! Only thing I didn&#8217;t like was that he kept Andrej Jeliazkov benched &#8211; he thought the Bulgarian striker was tactically not good enough &#8211; who was one of my fave players&#8230; Anyway&#8230;long time ago <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I remember Willem Van Hanegem&#8217;s farewell game pretty well. That was at the end of the season before JC&#8217;s season. JC was a guestplayer at Feyenoord then, but there were rumours about JC signing for Feyenoord. Most fans were against, but Willem was pro. So during the match, it was obvious that Willem did everything to allow JC to score for Feyenoord. Which he did (header). After the match, Willem said he thought it looked good to see JC score in the Feyenoord colors. From that moment on, Rotterdam embraced JC. Stop me if I&#8217;m ranting, ok?</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 10:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That translation was spot on Goose!

That turd quote wasn&#039;t Cruyff and neither Clarence&#039;s. It was used by a financial consultant I once hired and we were looking at some bad news... He said: hey...don&#039;t chew the turd...just quickly swallow it... :-). I thought that was soooo gross but also so very on the mark. Will never forget that...

I was happy to be able to use it in this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That translation was spot on Goose!</p>
<p>That turd quote wasn&#8217;t Cruyff and neither Clarence&#8217;s. It was used by a financial consultant I once hired and we were looking at some bad news&#8230; He said: hey&#8230;don&#8217;t chew the turd&#8230;just quickly swallow it&#8230; <img src='http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I thought that was soooo gross but also so very on the mark. Will never forget that&#8230;</p>
<p>I was happy to be able to use it in this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 10:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris: is that actually one of Cruijffs???

my all time fav. Cruijff wisdom;

The italians cant win from you but you can be beaten by them anyhow (difficult to translate, help jan please!)

grtz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: is that actually one of Cruijffs???</p>
<p>my all time fav. Cruijff wisdom;</p>
<p>The italians cant win from you but you can be beaten by them anyhow (difficult to translate, help jan please!)</p>
<p>grtz</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 09:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;ve got to swallow the turd and not chew on it.&quot;

I love his pearls of wisdom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ve got to swallow the turd and not chew on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love his pearls of wisdom</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 06:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, altough im too young to ever see him as a player (did you ever see him play live??)

think he was the first dutch footballer to see what a pro needs to do..make money...in a society like the dutch, wich is still a calvijn one, making money (and not being ashamed by it) is not popular: Embarrasment of riches.. thats very dutch

it always amazes me how special the cruijff position is in Holland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, altough im too young to ever see him as a player (did you ever see him play live??)</p>
<p>think he was the first dutch footballer to see what a pro needs to do..make money&#8230;in a society like the dutch, wich is still a calvijn one, making money (and not being ashamed by it) is not popular: Embarrasment of riches.. thats very dutch</p>
<p>it always amazes me how special the cruijff position is in Holland</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Goose, interesting stuff... Remember how Cruyff was not popular when he was a player? People called him money-wolf and stuff...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Goose, interesting stuff&#8230; Remember how Cruyff was not popular when he was a player? People called him money-wolf and stuff&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan; as a representative of one of the dutch who have for a long time &#039;hated&#039; Seedorf i have to replay on your comment on why the dutch hate(d) him.
1. it is true that he was &#039;old&#039;at a very young age, he ofcourse not well educated at all, he was a pro at 14, never finished school..(not saying his not intelligent), ..at first people just didnt really like his attitude which was a bit distant..then he started to become to cocky, youre saying noone wanted to take these penaltys but he just demanded the ball (also with freekicks) and the thing with the Kabel didnt help the image of all the surinam players..
i my group of friend i have a lot of football (and Oranje) supporters, we take football very serious..never heared anyting about Seedorf driving Ferraris, im sure nobody cares..

your comment on winners is very interesting; its very true that in dutch society there is little room for anything outside the regular..the country is just too small for extremes (Poldermodel, gedogen etc.) its importent to keep the peace.. now a real winner sometimes need to be extreme and will therefor get alot of shit, a winner (in football at least) needs to have people around them who really believe and who are willing to sacrifie..the one person in dutch history who could achive this is ofcourse Cruijff.. the one real winner is post war dutch history..the only one who the dutch are willing to follow blindly..cause we believe in him...hes the closest thing to God in my country..
Seedorf is ofcourse a winner, he can be the first one to win the Cham.Leg. 4 times, he hade a spectacular metamorfse, he looks so at ease with himself, he plays better than never before but
hes not that kind of winner who really takes it up another lever and so really can aggitate people because of it.. 

Lets see what tomorrow will bring; Kuyt or Seedorf

grzt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan; as a representative of one of the dutch who have for a long time &#8216;hated&#8217; Seedorf i have to replay on your comment on why the dutch hate(d) him.<br />
1. it is true that he was &#8216;old&#8217;at a very young age, he ofcourse not well educated at all, he was a pro at 14, never finished school..(not saying his not intelligent), ..at first people just didnt really like his attitude which was a bit distant..then he started to become to cocky, youre saying noone wanted to take these penaltys but he just demanded the ball (also with freekicks) and the thing with the Kabel didnt help the image of all the surinam players..<br />
i my group of friend i have a lot of football (and Oranje) supporters, we take football very serious..never heared anyting about Seedorf driving Ferraris, im sure nobody cares..</p>
<p>your comment on winners is very interesting; its very true that in dutch society there is little room for anything outside the regular..the country is just too small for extremes (Poldermodel, gedogen etc.) its importent to keep the peace.. now a real winner sometimes need to be extreme and will therefor get alot of shit, a winner (in football at least) needs to have people around them who really believe and who are willing to sacrifie..the one person in dutch history who could achive this is ofcourse Cruijff.. the one real winner is post war dutch history..the only one who the dutch are willing to follow blindly..cause we believe in him&#8230;hes the closest thing to God in my country..<br />
Seedorf is ofcourse a winner, he can be the first one to win the Cham.Leg. 4 times, he hade a spectacular metamorfse, he looks so at ease with himself, he plays better than never before but<br />
hes not that kind of winner who really takes it up another lever and so really can aggitate people because of it.. </p>
<p>Lets see what tomorrow will bring; Kuyt or Seedorf</p>
<p>grzt</p>
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		<title>By: sphinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>sphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey i&#039;am back jan.
Seedorf always asked for no.10 jarsey and right time only come at32. He has fitted well into that position. I really want to see him with his 4th cup.
Imagine if Basten let him try the same way for orange! surely he will porve right again.
BTW I will be in Thailand to watch the friendly, Exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i&#8217;am back jan.<br />
Seedorf always asked for no.10 jarsey and right time only come at32. He has fitted well into that position. I really want to see him with his 4th cup.<br />
Imagine if Basten let him try the same way for orange! surely he will porve right again.<br />
BTW I will be in Thailand to watch the friendly, Exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: ferenc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marco (or rather someone else) should build oranje ec 08 around clarence and ruud.

sorry for kuyt&#039;s and bolo&#039;s (hope he will play)fans,but for tomorrow: forza clarence,go milan!!!

he will deserve his 4th cl victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marco (or rather someone else) should build oranje ec 08 around clarence and ruud.</p>
<p>sorry for kuyt&#8217;s and bolo&#8217;s (hope he will play)fans,but for tomorrow: forza clarence,go milan!!!</p>
<p>he will deserve his 4th cl victory.</p>
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