Ruud back in, Hunter out: Oranje

August 17th, 2007 | By: Jan | 17 Comments »

Ruud van Nistelrooij is back in Orange. The Real Madrid striker makes his return after more than a year of absence. Klaas Jan Huntelaar seems to be the victim. The Ajax striker is not needed for the match against Switzerland.

Robin van Persie returns as well. The Arsenal star played his last international in October 06, after that he was absent due to the birth of his son and a long injurie.

Final group:

Goal: Van der Sar (Manchester United), Stekelenburg (Ajax);
Defense: Boulahrouz (Sevilla), Bouma (Aston Villa), Emanuelson (Ajax), Heitinga (Ajax), Jaliens (AZ), Mathijsen (Hamburger SV), Melchiot (Wigan Athletic);
Midfield: Afellay (PSV), Van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), Seedorf (AC Milan), Sneijder (Real Madrid), Van der Vaart (Hamburger SV), De Zeeuw (AZ);
Attack: Babel (Liverpool), Kuijt (Liverpool), Van Nistelrooij (Real Madrid), Van Persie (Arsenal), Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic).



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Username By Miguel Rosado | August 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
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Marco making mistakes again, it’s incredible that he’s still the coach of the Netherlands.

How can Hesselink be on the list instead of Huntelaar, can anyone explain me that???. Hesselink has been with the senior team for years and he has done nothing at all.

I fear that San Marco decides at the very last moment to bench Persie instead of Ruud.
In my opinion there are players who have to play game after game and I think both Ruud and Persie are of that kind. According to the 4-3-3 system Marco uses they can’t play together and that would be an insult to football fans.

Marco has been in charge for about 4 years now and I still don’t know what’s the starting line up or the probable line up. When you are about to watch a game of Brazil, Italy, France, Portugal, etc… you have an idea of what the starting line up will be and I have to say that I don’t follow those teams as much as I follow Holland (365 days of the year haha).
I still don’t know what’s the defense, midfield or forwards I only know that Edwin will play haha.
I fully respect Van Basten but he is not prepared enough to coach a national team and let me tell you that it shows and if we don’t win -vs- Bulgaria we will risk our qualification.

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Username By Miguel Rosado | August 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
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Marco making mistakes again, it’s incredible that he’s still the coach of the Netherlands.

How can Hesselink be on the list instead of Huntelaar, can anyone explain me that???. Hesselink has been with the senior team for years and he has done nothing at all.

I fear that San Marco decides at the very last moment to bench Persie instead of Ruud.
In my opinion there are players who have to play game after game and I think both Ruud and Persie are of that kind. According to the 4-3-3 system Marco uses they can’t play together and that would be an insult to football fans.

Marco has been in charge for about 4 years now and I still don’t know what’s the starting line up or the probable line up. When you are about to watch a game of Brazil, Italy, France, Portugal, etc… you have an idea of what the starting line up will be and I have to say that I don’t follow those teams as much as I follow Holland (365 days of the year haha).
I still don’t know what’s the defense, midfield or forwards I only know that Edwin will play haha.
I fully respect Van Basten but he is not prepared enough to coach a national team and let me tell you that it shows and if we don’t win -vs- Bulgaria we will risk our qualification.

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Username By Bruce | August 18th, 2007 at 12:17 am
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Van Persie and Van Nistelrooy can play together in a 4-3-3. vN is a central striker, whereas vP usually plays on one of the wings.

Not sure why VoH was chosen before KJH. Perhaps vB already had enough attacking forwards and needed a more defensive player to give him more options. You never know…

Predicted lineup:

Van der Sar

Melchiot
Boularouz
Mathijsen
van Bronckhorst

Sneijder
Seedorf
VanderVaart

VanPersie
vanNistelrooy
Kuyt

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Username By sandesh | August 18th, 2007 at 2:23 am
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all front 6 r attackin players were is the defensive or the holding midfield

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Username By Lerkot | August 18th, 2007 at 4:07 am
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Its true Vennegoor of Hesselink hasnt really made an impact in the national team. But you could say the same thing about Huntelaar. He wasnt good in the CL, hasnt scored in six straight caps and wasnt very good in Ajax last year. Vennegoor is a different player typ and could be needed in some situations.

And no, van Persie och Ruud could very well play together. They did that at the World Cup 2006, as you might remember.

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Username By Jan | August 18th, 2007 at 5:04 am
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Vennegoor can play the pinch hitter role, KJH is less impactful when he comes on. Furthermore, KJH is not in form. And since Marco has a short line to Ajax, it may well be that Henk ten Cate “asked” Marco not to take KJH. As you will remember, Hunter missed a crucial spotkick against Prague. In 10 days, Ajax needs to play Prague again, away, and needs to win! Marco will sympathize with that objective and will want KJH to play CL football. There you go.

As for line ups, I see a 4-3-3 line up with some modifications in execution. I can see Ruud playing deep with Kuyt or Robben on the flank and v Persie in a free role behind Ruud. Vaart taking care of the right and Sneijder and Seedorf playing more in a holding role. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Seedorf doesn’t play, but Gio plays in the holding spot, as he does with Feyenoord now. Emanuelson will play left back and Clarence will join Marco on the bench…

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Username By ferenc | August 18th, 2007 at 5:11 am
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clarence can’t be on the bench. it would be a shame because at the moment there are only 3 world class dutch player,and he’s one of them (clarence,rvn,van persie).

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Username By Caleb | August 18th, 2007 at 10:33 am
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Vennegoor is there because he is makes a different kind of game possible. Vennegoor is the only forward we have that we can play long balls to and expect him to win them (I love Ruud and Van Persie, but they are not really players who can push off defenders and control long balls). In some games/situations you need a player like that.
Huntelaar is still very young and inexperienced and Ruud and Van Persie can do better in his position anyways.

What I want to know is, where’s Robben?? He’s not in the line up?

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Username By netherlandfanboy | August 18th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
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@Caleb: Robben is having a injury. I think Marco should give Maduro more chance. He did well last U-21 tournament and we really need a defensive midfielder, we have too many playmakers(Seedorf, VDV and Sneijder).

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Username By Miguel Rosado | August 18th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
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Yes Maduro deserves more chance but from Ten Cate I mean Davids is injured and Sneijder left and he is still on the bench!!!!

I don’t see Gio playing in the holding spot, he is a great player but I think there you need another type of player, phisically stronger.

Seedorf can’t be on the bench at all.

I’d love to see Ruud and Persie playing together but not with van Persie on the wing as he did at the World Cup, I’d like to see him playing next or as a shadow of Ruud just behind. I think they can form a couple as Bergkamp and Kluivert.

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Username By Jan | August 19th, 2007 at 4:42 am
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Just remember it’s San Marco we’re dealing with. He benches Seedorf before, he benched Ruud before… And Robin next to Ruud would imply 4-4-2. I can’t see Marco defeating now and giving in to the system chamge, particularly after Foppe’s rant. I think Marco will astonish us all with a weird line-up… What else can he do?

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Username By tiju thomas | August 19th, 2007 at 7:47 am
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Dear Vanbasten u made mistake again by selecting kew jaliens,bula hruz dirkquite
why
as a central defender(bulahr) is quite ok but as rtwing back so poor not offencive ,no pnetrating ability
Kew jalins utter waste
any way babel,Ruud,haiselink are there then why u selected dirk quite.
take castelen is a team player and good dribler & skilled 100 times greater than dirk quite
mid field u need some physical plyers with skill ,
give chance to hedwings & evader Sno,
Why Zneder drop him and take drenthe
Emauel son is ok. but donk may central difender but use him as a left wing back use his offencive skill

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Username By Jan | August 19th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
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Is this Ishmael by any chance :-) ?

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Username By Rami | August 19th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
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btw, it doesnt seem like boulah is a starter in sevilla, well not yet at least..
i hope he bounces back soon.

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Username By Mario | August 19th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
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Well guys, I can´t see and understand why is Huntelaar out instead of Venegoor???. He is not out of form, he scored four goals in one game!. van Basten is very stupid, one or two bad games in a row and you are left out. Huntelaar has shown his value when he won the Euro 21 tournament with Holland and has been very productive for Ajax and has scored twice with the Dutch National Team. To select Kew Jaliens instead of Kromkamp and to reject Maduro and Drenthe for me are terrible mistakes. I am very afraid with this coach. We have the players but with these kind of decisions I fear we can get eliminated for Euro 08, Bulgaria and Romania are in good position and if we do not beat at least one of them things will complicate a lot. And is Miguel says, if van Basten thinks of van Persie and Ruud as only central strikers then it looks like Robin and Ruud will fight for that position and to bench one of those players will the biggest mistake you can make as it happened when he benched van Nistelrooy at the World Cup. If you as a coach do something like that your destiny is one: failure and with this coach you never know what can happen.

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Username By Lerkot | August 20th, 2007 at 11:43 am
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People have explained why Huntelaar wasnt chosen and Vennegoor was. Your ignore the answers so its kind of uninteresting to debate more with you.

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Username By Ruud back in, Hunter out: Oranje — Hamburger Recipes | March 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
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