Comments on: Robben, Sneijder, Davids… http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:27:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-83021 Jan Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:25:39 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-83021 Ah...what a subject this is... doping... I am appalled with the number of news items coming out of the Tour de France circus. I used to follow it, but I don't anymore. But as for doping: I do feel the "Industry" doesn't know enough (I won't go into conspiracy plots here) to give definitive statements on what is doping and what's not. I mean, mariihuana is on the list! The only way marihuana will improve sports results if you put a box of tim-tams beyond the finish line!!! Doping wouldn't work in football really. Football is more a game you play with your brains and skills. Doping doesn't make you smarter and doesn't improve football skills. It makes you run easier, I guess. I can imagine cyclists benefiting from it, but I wouldn't want to see Davids or Babel on dope :-). That whole Davids / De Boer thing was a hoax, in my view. Nandrolon is a substance the body creates and it's a known fact that some bodies create more than others. Davids was tested many times, and he is one of those people, that generates more nandrolon than the average Joe Blow. I know Davids (through friends of friends, so to speak) and he is a very responsible and serious athlete, who wouldn't do that stuff to himself. And, let's be serious here, he wouldn't need it anyway!! Tyoes like Wim Jonk, Frank Rijkaard and John van 't Schip - the mellow ones -could've used some, though :-). I do remember a funny incident in Holland, when a player got hit on the head and ended up with a concussion. Nobody noticed though, so some time in the game, the chap suddenly picked up the ball and went for his own goal! He scored an own goal - everybody though he was crazy!! - and ran away cheering and jumping. He even jumped for the cross bar and started to swing from it!!! Then the club doctor (it was at Excelsior) ran on the pitch and took him in... He was hospitalized... No real connection with dope of course, but such a good story :-) Ah…what a subject this is… doping… I am appalled with the number of news items coming out of the Tour de France circus. I used to follow it, but I don’t anymore.

But as for doping: I do feel the “Industry” doesn’t know enough (I won’t go into conspiracy plots here) to give definitive statements on what is doping and what’s not. I mean, mariihuana is on the list! The only way marihuana will improve sports results if you put a box of tim-tams beyond the finish line!!!

Doping wouldn’t work in football really. Football is more a game you play with your brains and skills. Doping doesn’t make you smarter and doesn’t improve football skills. It makes you run easier, I guess. I can imagine cyclists benefiting from it, but I wouldn’t want to see Davids or Babel on dope :-) .

That whole Davids / De Boer thing was a hoax, in my view. Nandrolon is a substance the body creates and it’s a known fact that some bodies create more than others. Davids was tested many times, and he is one of those people, that generates more nandrolon than the average Joe Blow. I know Davids (through friends of friends, so to speak) and he is a very responsible and serious athlete, who wouldn’t do that stuff to himself. And, let’s be serious here, he wouldn’t need it anyway!! Tyoes like Wim Jonk, Frank Rijkaard and John van ‘t Schip – the mellow ones -could’ve used some, though :-) .

I do remember a funny incident in Holland, when a player got hit on the head and ended up with a concussion. Nobody noticed though, so some time in the game, the chap suddenly picked up the ball and went for his own goal! He scored an own goal – everybody though he was crazy!! – and ran away cheering and jumping. He even jumped for the cross bar and started to swing from it!!! Then the club doctor (it was at Excelsior) ran on the pitch and took him in… He was hospitalized…

No real connection with dope of course, but such a good story :-)

]]> By: Lerkot http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-83005 Lerkot Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:32:29 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-83005 I think doping in European football is very unusual actually. Partly because football is more of a team sport, you have to rely on other peoples abilities than just your own ones. That removes a lot of pressure. Also, biking is more individual so if you get caught you dont have to worry about not being liked by team mates in the future since you dont have to meet them very often. I think doping in European football is very unusual actually. Partly because football is more of a team sport, you have to rely on other peoples abilities than just your own ones. That removes a lot of pressure. Also, biking is more individual so if you get caught you dont have to worry about not being liked by team mates in the future since you dont have to meet them very often.

]]> By: stephen http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-83004 stephen Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:29:00 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-83004 I am not sure, but I personally don't get all bent out of shape about it. I don't think it is criminal activity, just guys trying to gain an edge. That said, the leagues or governing bodies or whatever have every right to institute the rules they wish, and the participants of those leagues must obey or be penalized accordingly. So conceivably you could have doping leagues and a non-doping leagues. Maybe the Eredivisie should become a doping league to catch up with the competition. haha. Though I think it would be a little bizarre to see guys shooting up on the sideline. Don't let your kids watch. Probably not the healthiest thing to do. There are too many games though. Maybe the amount of games should be reduced, but that won't happen for one simple reason - $$. So if I'm a manager of a top club that is competing in Europe, the domestic league and europe come first, everything else(cups etc.) I give to the reserves. Don't think that would fly to well with managment. Oh well I am not sure, but I personally don’t get all bent out of shape about it. I don’t think it is criminal activity, just guys trying to gain an edge. That said, the leagues or governing bodies or whatever have every right to institute the rules they wish, and the participants of those leagues must obey or be penalized accordingly. So conceivably you could have doping leagues and a non-doping leagues. Maybe the Eredivisie should become a doping league to catch up with the competition. haha. Though I think it would be a little bizarre to see guys shooting up on the sideline. Don’t let your kids watch. Probably not the healthiest thing to do.

There are too many games though. Maybe the amount of games should be reduced, but that won’t happen for one simple reason – $$. So if I’m a manager of a top club that is competing in Europe, the domestic league and europe come first, everything else(cups etc.) I give to the reserves. Don’t think that would fly to well with managment. Oh well

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82990 goose Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:35:10 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82990 @jan; hehe, its so funny, when you talk about Meier etc. i really dont know what youre talking about.. always put out the video after the penalty, that happened for years until one day when i was not paying attention i looked at the tv and saw the second german goal ,that was only a few years ago and it still pissed me off big time!! its funny how yo u can get traumatised from something that you never actually had to live trough btw: been watching the TourdeFrance (ofcourse) and now i keep thinking of doping in football, been thinking about the Nandrolon(?) thing with Stam/deBoer/Davids... what do you guys (the ones not on holiday) think?? with all the games nowadays?? @jan; hehe, its so funny, when you talk about Meier etc. i really dont know what youre talking about.. always put out the video after the penalty, that happened for years until one day when i was not paying attention i looked at the tv and saw the second german goal ,that was only a few years ago and it still pissed me off big time!! its funny how yo u can get traumatised from something that you never actually had to live trough

btw: been watching the TourdeFrance (ofcourse) and now i keep thinking of doping in football, been thinking about the Nandrolon(?) thing with Stam/deBoer/Davids… what do you guys (the ones not on holiday) think?? with all the games nowadays??

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82959 Jan Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:09:37 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82959 Good one, thanks Pete! Good to see you commenting again... Good one, thanks Pete! Good to see you commenting again…

]]> By: Peter v http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82957 Peter v Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:06:18 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82957 http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=478088&CPID=219&clid=14&lid=&title=Babel+defied+Van+Basten interesting story about babel i stumbled across. Long time reader btw, just don't bother to comment, used to though whilst the world cup was on. http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=478088&CPID=219&clid=14&lid=&title=Babel+defied+Van+Basten

interesting story about babel i stumbled across.

Long time reader btw, just don’t bother to comment, used to though whilst the world cup was on.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82938 Jan Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:28:00 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82938 Just read that Edgar Davids did not wear shin protectors in the match against the Eagles. He always wears them. In fact, it's mandatory to wear them in official matches. Davids is the type of pro that would never ever not wear them. But he didn't. Photo material shows it. Ten Cate admitted it. only Davids stays silent about this mystery. Why didn't he wear them? According to the KNVB doctor, there's a fair chance he wouldn't have broken his leg if he did wear them... Weird. Just read that Edgar Davids did not wear shin protectors in the match against the Eagles. He always wears them. In fact, it’s mandatory to wear them in official matches. Davids is the type of pro that would never ever not wear them. But he didn’t. Photo material shows it. Ten Cate admitted it. only Davids stays silent about this mystery. Why didn’t he wear them? According to the KNVB doctor, there’s a fair chance he wouldn’t have broken his leg if he did wear them… Weird.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82925 Jan Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:05:17 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82925 Idon't know... you should watch the rest I think and particularly watch JC's contribution. Check if you can see if he is played out of the match or whether he is just nog capable of turning the match around. Also, watch German goalie Maier. And check out Jongbloed when the Zjermans score the winner... OOPS... I didn't give anything away, did I??? Idon’t know… you should watch the rest I think and particularly watch JC’s contribution. Check if you can see if he is played out of the match or whether he is just nog capable of turning the match around. Also, watch German goalie Maier. And check out Jongbloed when the Zjermans score the winner… OOPS… I didn’t give anything away, did I???

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82863 goose Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:33:46 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82863 well i wont spoil the fun.. it will get better and better, that i can tell you...watch what happens 5 minutes before the end..hehe.. criminal.. still my advise; dont watch all of the final, the first 5 minutes will do just fine..(im so glad i hadnt to life through that disaster) grtz well i wont spoil the fun.. it will get better and better, that i can tell you…watch what happens 5 minutes before the end..hehe.. criminal..

still my advise; dont watch all of the final, the first 5 minutes will do just fine..(im so glad i hadnt to life through that disaster)

grtz

]]> By: stephen http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html/comment-page-1#comment-82862 stephen Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:14:54 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/robben-sneijder-davids.html#comment-82862 goose - I havn't watched all the games yet(busy summer), I am however about half way through the Brazil game. The score is still 0-0, can't wait to see who wins! haha. Oranje have had most of the possesion so far, but Brazil has had more real chances on goal. The game is more physical than the others. Brazil is trying physically knock Oranje off their game. I don't think it will work :-) goose – I havn’t watched all the games yet(busy summer), I am however about half way through the Brazil game. The score is still 0-0, can’t wait to see who wins! haha. Oranje have had most of the possesion so far, but Brazil has had more real chances on goal. The game is more physical than the others. Brazil is trying physically knock Oranje off their game. I don’t think it will work :-)

]]>