Comments on: Ramos: Something smells fishy in the State of Real Madrid… http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:30:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Caleb http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163307 Caleb Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:12:57 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163307 Interesting times in La Liga! Barcelona lose another one, Real gets a relatively comfortable win, difference down to 4 points but there's still an El Classico to go... exciting! As for Real Madrid, it think it's silly to say they would be better without Robben. Sure, sometimes he hangs on to the ball too long and tries to do too much himself, but he has also scored many game winning goals recently doing just that - when the rest of the team looked decidedly lackluster. Maybe sometimes he wastes an opportunity by trying to beat that one extra man, but remember that he usually also created that opportunity himself out of nothing! And just like Mario said, he's also put in many great passes/cutbacks that his teammates have failed to capitalize on, so we need to keep that in mind too. As for the central striker issue - it's true, but I'm not sure if it would have made too much difference in the Liverpool game. The problem was lack of creativity in the midfield, so even if you've got a great forward up front, if you can't reach him it doesn't do any good! You need to give him good service for him to work with, and against the Reds you need a better midfield four than Marcello, Gago, Lass and Guti in order to give that service. Interesting times in La Liga! Barcelona lose another one, Real gets a relatively comfortable win, difference down to 4 points but there’s still an El Classico to go… exciting!

As for Real Madrid, it think it’s silly to say they would be better without Robben. Sure, sometimes he hangs on to the ball too long and tries to do too much himself, but he has also scored many game winning goals recently doing just that – when the rest of the team looked decidedly lackluster. Maybe sometimes he wastes an opportunity by trying to beat that one extra man, but remember that he usually also created that opportunity himself out of nothing! And just like Mario said, he’s also put in many great passes/cutbacks that his teammates have failed to capitalize on, so we need to keep that in mind too.

As for the central striker issue – it’s true, but I’m not sure if it would have made too much difference in the Liverpool game. The problem was lack of creativity in the midfield, so even if you’ve got a great forward up front, if you can’t reach him it doesn’t do any good! You need to give him good service for him to work with, and against the Reds you need a better midfield four than Marcello, Gago, Lass and Guti in order to give that service.

]]> By: Jeroen http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163297 Jeroen Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:11:01 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163297 @MO, that's the exact lineup I have running in my head, albeit in a different formation (the 4-2-3-1 we've been using) with de Jong and Schaars controlling, sneijder mid-center, robben left, vp right, and hunt up top. But I see I finally found someone who agrees with me on the back line :). Ideally though, get rid of Mathijssen and get an in shape Boulah. Also still not sure about Steks... @MO, that’s the exact lineup I have running in my head, albeit in a different formation (the 4-2-3-1 we’ve been using) with de Jong and Schaars controlling, sneijder mid-center, robben left, vp right, and hunt up top. But I see I finally found someone who agrees with me on the back line :) . Ideally though, get rid of Mathijssen and get an in shape Boulah. Also still not sure about Steks…

]]> By: tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163290 tiju Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:10:09 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163290 @MO your line is superb as per the current form of the team @MO your line is superb as per the current form of the team

]]> By: Ruud http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163283 Ruud Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:44:35 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163283 I can't imagine the dutch team without sneijder :( I hate real madrid I can’t imagine the dutch team without sneijder :(
I hate real madrid

]]> By: Michel-Olivier http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163282 Michel-Olivier Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:11:05 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163282 my 11 base on playing time and form ------------stekelenburg-------- v.d.wiel-marcellis-mathijsen-braafheid ----schaars--d.jong--sneijder------ v.persie-----huntelaar-------robben subs: vermeer heitinga wielaert emanuelson d.silva brama afellay kuyt amrabat my 11 base on playing time and form
————stekelenburg——–
v.d.wiel-marcellis-mathijsen-braafheid
—-schaars–d.jong–sneijder——
v.persie—–huntelaar——-robben

subs:
vermeer
heitinga
wielaert
emanuelson
d.silva
brama
afellay
kuyt
amrabat

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163277 Mario Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:35:55 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163277 My line up at the moment is: 1-Stekelenburg 2-Heitinga 3-Mathijsen 4-van Bommel 5-Bouma 6- de Jong 7- Kuyt 8-Schaars 9- KJH 10- van Persie 11- Robben My line up at the moment is:

1-Stekelenburg
2-Heitinga
3-Mathijsen
4-van Bommel
5-Bouma
6- de Jong
7- Kuyt
8-Schaars
9- KJH
10- van Persie
11- Robben

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163276 Jan Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:18:33 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163276 Sneijder started for Real but was subbed for Guti. Who scored almost immediately. Sneijder also got his 5th yellow and is out for next week's derby. Bad days for Wes... Sneijder started for Real but was subbed for Guti. Who scored almost immediately. Sneijder also got his 5th yellow and is out for next week’s derby. Bad days for Wes…

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163275 Jan Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:17:28 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163275 Heitinga scored the first goal after 3 minutes but the goal was disallowed. Unjustly. Difference between Barca and Real is now 4 points!! De Zeeuw was the man of the match in AZ's gallery play victory over Groningen. Heitinga scored the first goal after 3 minutes but the goal was disallowed. Unjustly. Difference between Barca and Real is now 4 points!!

De Zeeuw was the man of the match in AZ’s gallery play victory over Groningen.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163274 Carlos Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:39:45 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163274 Alex - I like the line up.....hope Bert watches this and drops Bommel to the centre defence...am big on Schaars. Alex – I like the line up…..hope Bert watches this and drops Bommel to the centre defence…am big on Schaars.

]]> By: Miguel Rosado http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html/comment-page-1#comment-163273 Miguel Rosado Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:58:19 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/ramos-something-smells-fishy-in-the-state-of-real-madrid.html#comment-163273 Heitinga played a great game tonight!!!. I'm sure he'll start getting more chances under the new coach after tonight's performance. By the way Maduro is a regular with Valencia. It's funny and sad all these comments about how Madrid plays better without Robben. If Robben couldn't play because he was injured I bet the media would say "Madrid lost because they missed Robben". Heitinga played a great game tonight!!!. I’m sure he’ll start getting more chances under the new coach after tonight’s performance. By the way Maduro is a regular with Valencia.

It’s funny and sad all these comments about how Madrid plays better without Robben. If Robben couldn’t play because he was injured I bet the media would say “Madrid lost because they missed Robben”.

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