Rafael van der Vaart: the other Rafa

September 26th, 2008 | By: Jan | 45 Comments »


Vaart scores his second goal with the backheel…

The Real Madrid supporters couldn’t get excited when they read about new signing Raf van der Vaart. He was the only signing this summer and they only thing the dans new that he was a midfielder of Ajax and Hamburger SV - both not really European top anymore - and that he is half Spanish.

That was it, although the fans got a bonus when Rafael was presented and the fans saw Sylvie Meis!

After two months of friendlies and serious games however, the fans ask themselves how it’s possible that they never heard of him. He is significantly cheaper than Sneijder and Robben - almost as costly as Drenthe - and he won the hearts of the fans in no time.

After Madrid’s 7-1 bashing against Gijon, fans talked about the ressurection of Raul - he scored twice - but mainly about Van der Vaart’s hattrick, scoring one beautiful goal after another.

Marca thought his second goal should be framed. “Madrid adores the other Rafa”, wrote the newspaper, bringing the other phenomenon and Real-socio Rafa Nadal into the picture.

“Real thought they bought another creative midfielder, but Van der Vaart impressed on the spot where he grew up as a junior: as a striker,” wrote El Pais.

All papers agreed that it was Van der Vaart who led the champions to the monster score, with three goals and a subtle assist on Robben, who also scored his goal.

At the training session today, Van der Vaart was The Man, and he could happily welcome his buddy Sneijder back who seems to be recovered from his knee injury and trained with the group for the first time.



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Username By goose | September 27th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
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@Jan; vBommel wasnt benched! Bayern did lose got the 2nd time (Hannover96)

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Username By Jan | September 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
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Goose, Mark was benched for the mdweek game, last Wednesday. Klins calls it the rotation system, but Mark hated that system at Barca…

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Username By Jan | September 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
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Ruud van Gol scored another winner for Real Madrid…

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Username By goose | September 28th, 2008 at 4:59 am
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@Jan; ah, wasnt that a Cup tie?

Ruud is still a goal scoring machine! well done Ruud!!

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Username By Alex | September 28th, 2008 at 6:45 am
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I don’t agree about Fabregas at all, it’s true he’s the most important midfielder with Arsenal, but he’s certainly no God, still has a lot of flaws, he wasn’t on the bench during the EC because he’s the best man with Arsenal. Wenger said it himself ;Robin v.Persie is, when fit of course, his best player. Now what football fan, in their right mind, would disagree with Arsene.

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Username By Michel-Olivier | September 28th, 2008 at 7:50 am
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@ alex
according to the fans fab is arsenal, it’s all about the fans not wenger.

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Username By Michel-Olivier | September 28th, 2008 at 8:57 am
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11-October-2008 qualifier against Iceland
15-October-2008 qualifier against Norway

squad
Goalkeepers: Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Henk Timmer (Feyenoord).

Defence: Khalid Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), Tim de Cler (Feyenoord), John Heitinga (Atlético Madrid), Joris Mathijsen (HSV), André Ooijer (Blackburn Rovers).

Midfield: Ibrahim Afellay (PSV), Mark van Bommel (Bayern München), Orlando Engelaar (FC Schalke 04), Nigel de Jong (HSV), Rafael van der Vaart (Real Madrid), Demy de Zeeuw (AZ).

Attack: Ryan Babel (Liverpool), Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Ajax), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Arjen Robben (Real Madrid), Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic)

WTF same team. i think this will be the team that will go to wc2010 if qualify + another goalkeeper.

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Username By ian wilkie | September 28th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
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i heard wenger was thinking about huntelaar van persie partnership, id like to try that with vdv sneijder and robben behind them,

————huntelaar—–van persie

–robben——-van der vaart—–sneijder

————–van bommel——

__bronckhorst—heitinga—mathijsen—-boulahrouz

—————–stekelenburg

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Username By goose | September 28th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
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Eredivisie results;

NAC - Heerenveen ; 4-2

PSV - FC Volendam ; 1-0

Fc Twente - De Graafschap ; 3-0

Willem II - AZ ; 2-5

Fc Den Haag - Fc Utrecht ; 0-0

Ajax - Vitesse ; 3-0

Fc Groningen - Feyenoord ; 3-1

NEC - Heracles ; 1-1

Sparta - Roda JC ; 2-2

Standing;

1. Fc Groningen ; 10
2. PSV ; 9
3. NAC ; 9
4. Fc Twente ; 8

6. Ajax ; 7
13. Feyenoord ; 4
18. Volendam ; 0

Az seem to have found some momentum, think Schaars returning has been vital, also deZeeuw is finding back some form … Dembele scored a sensational dribbling goal, here it is; http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=wET77CTHX3w

Feyenoord was down to 10 men after Hofland was sent off after 10 minutes, Markus Berg scored 2 goals

PSV played pretty ok but they have a striker problem; Koevermans is just not good enough, they should have scored 4 or 5 highlights;http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQ4AIVpco4

Ajax played pretty weak but in the end the opponent was too weak for them not to win. Jan Vertonghen (Belgium) scored 2 goals; Vertonghen goal (filmed from the stands; http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=NKWgZLX03DE
Suarez goal, filmed from the stands;http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=uaIFpfoxafs

grtz

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Username By ghost of steve finnan | September 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
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Steve Mcclaren off to a decent start. Surprising…

NAC Breda was what 3rd last yr? And off to another nice start.

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Username By Carlos | September 28th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
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Can anyone tell me if Hofland is back to his best ? I rellu liked him quite a few years back…Is he still a possible Oranje player ?
Ian I like your pick, especially aganst weaker opposition.

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Username By Miguel Rosado | September 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
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I also like very much Ian’s team. It looks like Stijn Schaars is doing very well.

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Username By Jan | September 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
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Ian, good line up. But why Mathijsen?? Against lesser nations, why not use a the same number of “markers” as they play strikers. Mostly one or two!!

So, Heitinga and Boula to mark the opponent, you can then use Schaars or even Bommel at the back as libero.

Nigel de Jong could play holding midfielder, or maybe Wesley so we can play Afellay as well.

OR….we ask the FIFA if we could please please play 12 men :-)

THANKS GOOSE! Always great those Youtube clips. Thanks man!

Hofland isn’t 100% fit and you can tell. Verbeek really needs him with Lucius, Gio and Vlaar injured, but normally Hofland wouldn’t play. Verbeek really praises his coaching and all so he is an important bloke for the team. Van Marwijk knows him well so if Hofland gets it together, Bert will know.

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Username By Jan | September 28th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
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http://netherlands.theoffside.com/

Check out the action here my friends… Just drop in, ok :-)?

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Username By finnster01 | September 29th, 2008 at 1:42 am
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Norway and Iceland will most likely both play with 1 big lone striker upfront (Carew for Norway/Aston Villa, joint top scorer at the moment in EPL and in great form. Has more goals than Torres…), Iceland plays with Gudjohnsen from Barca. Then both teams have support from another giant striker playing as an attacking midfielder. (Iversen for Norway and Hreidarson for Iceland).

So in other words, what ever works against Iceland should also work against Norway. Especially speed on the transition and the flanks. The only concern is those damn set pieces and corners as Norway in particular will send up Hangeland as well (Norway captain and CB for Fulham), giving them 3 guys around 2 meters tall inside the box and I am not convinced the Oranje defense is all that solid against aerial bombardement anymore.

This should be simple for Oranje, but those kind of teams are going to sit back with 10 very large men behind the ball at all times and hope for the odd opportunity off a set piece. Oranje does not have a great history against these kind of teams.

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Username By finnster01 | September 29th, 2008 at 1:53 am
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@ghost; Don’t worry, Steve McLaren will soon show his true form and bring his umbrella.

A little bit suprised about Feyenoord’s lack of form though. 6 points already behind Groningen doesn’t sound right does it?

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Username By finnster01 | September 29th, 2008 at 1:55 am
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Mind you, Groningen on top of the table does not sound right either…

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Username By dirk v.d. Berg | September 29th, 2008 at 6:08 am
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——-huntelaar—-van persie—–
robben–van der vaart–affelay–kuyt
———-van bommel————
van bronkhorst–heitinga–boulharouz
————–stek——————

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Username By ian | September 29th, 2008 at 7:36 am
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the good thing is that real madrid play a 4132 most of the time so i think robben van der vaart will be really comfortable with it, mathijsen bcuz his hamburg team had i think the best defensive record in germany

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Username By Jan | September 29th, 2008 at 7:56 am
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Playing those big bullying nordic blokes, I’d say use quick and able players upfront.

Van Persie
Robben Vaart Afellay
Sneijder
Gio - Van Bommel - Boulah - Heitinga
Stekelenburg

As for Feyenoord: the first defeat was partly due to De Guzman’s sending off after 30 minutes. It was 0-0 at that time.
Same against Groningen: Hofland off after 10 minutes.

Feyenoord had (has) quite a number of injuries (Makaay, Tomasson, De Guzman, Landzaat, Gio, Slory, Bruins, Lucius, Hofland, De Cler) in the last games and had to play a number of under-20s in their place.

I’m sure Verbeek will turn it around. Groningen is a pretty good side though. Marcus Berg is lethal.

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Username By Caleb | September 29th, 2008 at 9:49 am
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Goose, thanks for the updates/highlights as usual. Here’s my recap of the two teams I watch every week:

Arsenal vs. Hull City - bit of a shocker this one, but Hull city scored a couple of very nice goals and Arsenal wasted chance after chance. Typical criticism of Arsenal - they wanted to walk the ball into the net. After they went down 2-1 they really went for the equalizer, and came really close. Van Persie in particular almost scored a few spectacular goals trying to equalize, but they were always just a little off target.

Real Betis vs. Real Madrid - I stayed up late to watch this one and it was a pretty good match. Heinze scored with a header off a nice Van der Vaart free kick. Robben played well but still looking selfish and not passing enough; he did provide a nice pass for Ruud to score the winner in injury time though. Excellent finish by Ruud - he’s still the most dangerous striker around. After watching Van Persie wasting chances it was nice to see Ruud finish when it mattered for Madrid.

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Username By ian wilkie | September 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
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a couple more things, i dont like bebel yet, he played in most euro qualifyers and we barely scored,didn’t play in euro and we scored alot, i would like seedorf to play with van bommel but looks unlikely

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Username By finnster01 | September 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
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@Goose: Great updates! Keep them coming.

On a different topic, I see that one of our “favorite” players, Cristiano Ronaldo, still has his diving skills perfected. I see that the referee, Styles, has now publically apologized for making a mistake this weekend and give the penalty. He should have given Ronaldo a yellow for diving instead.

What is up with the refereeing in the Prem this season? It has been absolutely horrible. I watch 2-3 games each week, and I am afraid I can’t recall a single game this season I would honestly say that the referee did a good job. Yet FIFA forces great refs (like Collina in Italy) to retire way too early. He could have continued for another 10 years and still been heads and shoulders above the incredibly incompetent lot that is on display at the moment.

The irony is that the English FA is running a campaign this year called “Respect” which is aimed at players showing greater respect for the referees and for example only allowing the captains on each team to speak to them. Torres for example got a well deserved yellow for running his mouth against Everton, and I am a ‘pool fan. I was brought up by my parents to believe that the best way to get respect at your job is to do the best job you can possibly do, and no one can ask any more of you. I guess either the English refs are either not very gifted by birth or they never knew you have to earn it to get it.

Nobody ever messed with Collina.

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Username By Michel-Olivier | September 29th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
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—Hunter–Van Persie—
Robben—Sneijder—Vaart
——Van Bommel——
Gio-ooijer-Mathijsen-Heitinga
———Stekel———-

Boulah is injured

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Username By Carlos | September 29th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
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I have been watchng Carew lately and he is a handful - Always liked ths type of bustlng target man - He’s in good form and need to watch him as he has good feet too. Finn/Goose great reading your articles…thanks !
Oh dear! Finn just read that the bill didnt go thru… ouch !!

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