Comments on: PSV Goalie wants to become Dutch! http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:27:11 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: finnster01 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133685 finnster01 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:47:52 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133685 Simon is absolutely right that FIFA will never give dispension in a case like this. Especially not for someone with 10 caps or so with Brazil. There is this case just now that was turned down involving a player (forget his name, nothing great or I would have remembered) who by birth has the right to play for both Scotland and England. He wanted to play for Scotland (now I remember, he plays for Barnsley, he is the captain) but because he played once(!!!) for the Under 17 or 19's of (!!!!) England in the Toulouse tournament, which is on the FIFA calendar hence sanctioned by FIFA and therfore recognised. In addition he failed to indicate that he had a wish to play for before the other country befire he turned 21 (which he now is beyond), they turned the appeals down and there is no way he'll play for Scotland. Gomes has no chance, no matter what he says, so he should better shut up so that the rest of the keepers can develop in peace and quiet. Simon is absolutely right that FIFA will never give dispension in a case like this. Especially not for someone with 10 caps or so with Brazil.

There is this case just now that was turned down involving a player (forget his name, nothing great or I would have remembered) who by birth has the right to play for both Scotland and England. He wanted to play for Scotland (now I remember, he plays for Barnsley, he is the captain) but because he played once(!!!) for the Under 17 or 19’s of (!!!!) England in the Toulouse tournament, which is on the FIFA calendar hence sanctioned by FIFA and therfore recognised. In addition he failed to indicate that he had a wish to play for before the other country befire he turned 21 (which he now is beyond), they turned the appeals down and there is no way he’ll play for Scotland.

Gomes has no chance, no matter what he says, so he should better shut up so that the rest of the keepers can develop in peace and quiet.

]]> By: Kervin http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133672 Kervin Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:22:50 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133672 @ Simon, yeah you are perhaps right. But it remains the country they were born. It such a pleasure when you see Drogba who left HIS country to france when he was 5 but still play for ivory coast. But Gomez already played for brazil? if so he can't play for netherlands!! No dispension! @ Simon, yeah you are perhaps right. But it remains the country they were born. It such a pleasure when you see Drogba who left HIS country to france when he was 5 but still play for ivory coast. But Gomez already played for brazil? if so he can’t play for netherlands!! No dispension!

]]> By: simon http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133635 simon Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:15:41 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133635 Well... Kervin.. in the cases you mentioned, all of the players moved to their country when they were little kids, except Eduardo who was 15. So they all had non-footballing reasons to move to their new countries. The Gomes-case is a lot different since he moved to Holland when he was 24 or something, just in order to play football at a higher level and get more paid. Well… Kervin.. in the cases you mentioned, all of the players moved to their country when they were little kids, except Eduardo who was 15. So they all had non-footballing reasons to move to their new countries. The Gomes-case is a lot different since he moved to Holland when he was 24 or something, just in order to play football at a higher level and get more paid.

]]> By: Kervin http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133603 Kervin Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:13:34 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133603 I'm against it because perhaps it's not good that european countries "steal" players from other countries just because they play in their league. (Viera, Seedorf, Eduardo among others) This should apply to all players, not just Gomez. And in case it happens, for Stekelenburg it's just some more competition for a place in the starting line-up, and the best wins the place and in case one gets an injury, the other one can play. (the team is better) Football is a competition game, you can't just lose motivation because of competition. I’m against it because perhaps it’s not good that european countries “steal” players from other countries just because they play in their league. (Viera, Seedorf, Eduardo among others) This should apply to all players, not just Gomez.

And in case it happens, for Stekelenburg it’s just some more competition for a place in the starting line-up, and the best wins the place and in case one gets an injury, the other one can play. (the team is better) Football is a competition game, you can’t just lose motivation because of competition.

]]> By: dirk v.d berg http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133597 dirk v.d berg Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:42:37 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133597 He definitly has the quality to be goalie at a top club, and for Brazil. Man City said they were trying to make a big signing, maybe they're talking about him. He should try to go to Valencia though, because Koeman got rid of Canizares, and they're new goalie's not up to scruff. Stekelenburg/Waterman will definitly be keeper during 2010 qualifying, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them split the task, until we have a conclusive one. He definitly has the quality to be goalie at a top club, and for Brazil. Man City said they were trying to make a big signing, maybe they’re talking about him. He should try to go to Valencia though, because Koeman got rid of Canizares, and they’re new goalie’s not up to scruff. Stekelenburg/Waterman will definitly be keeper during 2010 qualifying, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them split the task, until we have a conclusive one.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133591 Jan Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:01:45 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133591 Imagine what this happy announcement of Gomez did to Stekelenburg... Waking up, finding the morning newspaper and that article. What? And that: "I want to make Oranje World Champion in 2010".... Should the KNVB try to help him with this and fail, I don't think you'll have a very motivated Stekelenburg left... Nah, Gomez says he discussed this with management and family, well...those were lousy discussions then, they all should have said: big guy, forget it! Won't work. Go to an EPL big league club and earn the spot in the Brazilian team. Oh, and...shut up :-) Imagine what this happy announcement of Gomez did to Stekelenburg…
Waking up, finding the morning newspaper and that article. What?

And that: “I want to make Oranje World Champion in 2010″….

Should the KNVB try to help him with this and fail, I don’t think you’ll have a very motivated Stekelenburg left…

Nah, Gomez says he discussed this with management and family, well…those were lousy discussions then, they all should have said: big guy, forget it! Won’t work. Go to an EPL big league club and earn the spot in the Brazilian team.

Oh, and…shut up :-)

]]> By: simon http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133583 simon Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:16:02 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133583 Not according to the rules, but he might be able to get dispension - at least thats whats he's going try to get, but I cant see it happen. Not according to the rules, but he might be able to get dispension – at least thats whats he’s going try to get, but I cant see it happen.

]]> By: dirk v.d berg http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133580 dirk v.d berg Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:55:23 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133580 Can Gomes play for the Dutch National Team, if he has already played for the Brazilian national team? Can Gomes play for the Dutch National Team, if he has already played for the Brazilian national team?

]]> By: simon http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133578 simon Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:28:41 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133578 And Velthuizen, who got selected today. True, I think Gomes is a bit better than both Waterman and Stekelenburg but the difference isnt big enough to compensate for the two years that differ to Stekelenburg and the language barrier. And Velthuizen, who got selected today. True, I think Gomes is a bit better than both Waterman and Stekelenburg but the difference isnt big enough to compensate for the two years that differ to Stekelenburg and the language barrier.

]]> By: Mario Rosado (Dutch admirer) http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-133577 Mario Rosado (Dutch admirer) Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:56:29 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/psv-goalie-wants-to-become-dutch.html#comment-133577 We have Waterman and Stekelenburg, why do we need him? We have Waterman and Stekelenburg, why do we need him?

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