Pepe’s proposal to punish “divers”…

HaHaHaHa!!!

Well done Pepe, I wonder how many studmarks Divaldo has on his back after the Portoguese training sessions…

Outstanding!! Need more of this kind of stuff.

The striker had it coming, but nevertheless pretty stupid. Pepe did it way too obvious, no one gets away with a move like that. He should have acted like he stumbled and accidentally stepped on that guys hand or something. Much more subtile and can at most get you a yellow card .

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kg_wcXBp4&feature=related

you should see Bruma at 3:21, talking about a nice pass from a defender.

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pepe will be suspended for 5-6 games. he’s a stupid guy and knows nothing about tactics. he probably doesn’t know this word. robben and sneijder are injured again,sneijder is completely useless this season (someone said here that he’s at least as good as iniesta… hahaha.it’s even bad for a joke: the difference between iniesta and sneijder is like the difference between sneijder and me,and i’m hardcore serious)).robben is injured again. actually i think that except casillas,sergio ramos,higuain and huntelaar the whole madrid team is crap,a company of self-proclaimed superstars. i don’t mention ruud and raul because they are legends,different class in the past.

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Perfect example of hardcore subjective views here Ferenc

Way too harsh on Sneijder man, he was very important for Real last season and in the EC defenitaly equal to Iniesta, who did nothing remarkably special there. You shouldn’t “overrate” Iniesta and underrate Sneijder like that, although Iniesta had a spectacular development and is a very good player. Differences are very small at the top, if Iniesta has one bad season due to injurie and personal problems, people would start bitching about him, that’s the nature of the impulsive football fan i guess . Sneijder had a tough season and one or two serious injuries, but apart from the rest of the season, made a good impression again last few games, until his injurie. If you’re talking about personal performances over this season Iniesta wins, without a doubt, no one can argue with that, but lighten up.

There’s one thing i can’t stand though, putting Robben among the crap? that’s crap man, his qualities alone put him among the best wingers in the world, regardless of what he might think, say or do. He stopped diving at least 80% of the time, only thing is whenever he is fit and playing for three months and then is out for some weeks due to injurie, everyone refers to his reputation of Glass man, names every injurie he had over the season, but if Messi plays three months and is out for 3 weeks, no one says anything, then it’s just coincidence and bad luck. Hate to break this to you but what you see is just what you like it to be. A guy like Messi just has more credit with viewers.

BTW the most likely new pres of Real: Perez is a madman, did the same thing a while ago that he wants to do now. Dislocating a perfectly good team who only need to strengthen and improve a few things, back then i think it was Beckham, Zidane and the other commercial giants, now he want to buy Ronaldo and Kaka, only reason is the commercial aspect, the can buy Ronaldo for 100 million, never put him in the field and still make twice as much off of his name.

I think it would be good for V.d.Vaart to play weekly, cause in more or less the role he had with HSV he is magnificent, Drenthe should go to a club where he can play regularyl as well, and has a chance of becoming a leading player, Real is still a step too high for him.

Huntelaar is going nowhere, and i feel Robben and Sneijder should stay as well. V.Nistelrooij can play anywhere and score, still worldclass, but Huntelaar is taking his place, and Van the Man shouldn’t end up on the bench.

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@Alex

Completely agree with you. My only concern with Robben is that his new approach to fitness seems to have taken away his problem with major injuries but has replaced it with many small 1-2 week injuries. Messi is still young, heals quickly. When he gets a couple of years older, then the injuries will start kicking in more often as well.

As for Sneijder, even if I were to be objective, I would say he was the best central midfielder at the entire Eurocup. He himself knows that as well, and he knows that he’s out of form. He got unlucky with getting injured twice, because he’s not typically a player that injures quickly. In the end, it’s better that they get injured now, recuperate, address whatever the underlying problem is, and regain fitness next year so that they will all be ready to go summer 2010.

Huntelaar needs to score again. Worst thing that can happen to a goal poacher is to score an amazing amount followed by nothingness. Scoring a goal in El Clasico or vs Villareal would go a long way in making sure his confidence level stays consistent.

As for Ruud, maybe he should go back to Man U and show this Berbatov guy (the most overrated striker ever) how it’s done. Or he can come to Ajax (which will never happen). I think van Nistelrooy will most likely play at the top level for 2-3 more years if he can before pulling a move back to PSV for a year or two.

Oh, and apparently Davids is going to be playing for the River Plate Boys. They’re finalizing negotiations this week.

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@Alex – I completely agree too. But whenever Ferenc starts talking about Barca and Madrid players, his objectivity goes straight out the window, his passion for Barca is just too strong

lol at what Pepe did. I know I’ve felt frustration like that before, but that’s certainly not the way to do it (although we all do hate divers)!

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Alex,Jeroen,Caleb: my objectivity might straight go out the window,but it seems that some journalists think the same way:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/04/23/1225223/spanish-inquisition-andres-iniesta-the-second-best-player-in-the-

(Spanish Inquisition: Andres Iniesta – The Second Best Player In The World)

i agree about ruud with you,he can play 2-3 more years at top international level,probably at psv. great news for edgar. about real madrid: maybe some of you turned to big real-fan,but we can change wifes but we can never change favourite football team. this is why i’m always for oranje,barca and in holland for ajax.

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That’s what i said, wasn’t it? that Iniesta is having the best season of his life, calling him second best in the world is just what journalists do. Provoking headlines and articles are what makes them interesting for so many people to read. BTW you might wanna ease up on the whole Madrid-Barca fan thing you’re doing, no one said they’re madrid or barca fans, only reason we’re talking about Madrid is cause of the 6 dutch players there, can you still remember that this blog is about oranje, ferenc
But to calm your nerves, I can say with relative safety though, most of us here would have liked to see some dutchies play for Barca instead of Real with it’s moneywasting management.

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BTW apparently Arsene Wenger is keeping an eye out for Ryan Babel, heard if Babel was to leave Liverpool, Wenger is very interested, and Zuiverloon said he doesn’t like the prospect of playing in the championship next season, not very strange since he wants to make oranje, with him saying this, it might create some real interest from PL clubs.

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babel should have gone to arsenal instead of liverpool. their style fits more to babel than liverpool. it would be great for him. he wastes his time on the pool bench. actually rafa benitez prefers spanish players and this is why riera is almost always in the starting 11 instead of babel. his not better than babel. i would say that babel is better than him.

btw: pepe 10 games ban.

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yeah i heard, also read he missed practise, and stated he feels he has no motivation to return to professional football, so he might even quit. Still, Pepe went mad that game, it’s his own fault, causing a penalty, kicking the guy twice, punching an opponent in the face, then arguing with referees. He must have been smoking something before that game.

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Fine, pepe was wrong. But look at the idiot diver holding his face. pepe never even came close to touching his face. Why didn’t he get a card for diving? Why didn’t he get a ban for bringing the game into disrepute by not playing by the rules.

Name me one single player who has gotten a significant ban/suspension for diving? There isn’t one. Uefa hypocrites, the lot of them. Diving will excel, not diminish thanks to their inability and unwillingness to crack down on it. Just watch.

Pepe will be suspended for 10 games. An outstanding punishment, but well deserved. He is a guy that loses his head easily and I think that after this stupid reaction he can have trouble to regain the confidence of the coach and the fans. I would sell him to another team, he is useless.

Diving is a disease. It is getting worse and destroying the game. And how about that little rat feigning head injury just to make sure he made a proper meal of it? I suppose that’s OK too, Jan? Anything goes to get someone sent off right, just like Ronaldo.

Pepe’s only real mistake was to not kick him harder.

@Jan: And in the very same old days, Van Hanegem, Krol and Neeskens would not have to deal with any divers anyway because nobody would dare to do it with them around…

The hard men are disappearing, and the divers are exploding like the Chinese population in the 60′ies.

There’s a reason Hunter’s dad keeps a cat

@Jan: Holzenbein…grrrrr. I used to think he didn’t dive, but I think I read somewhere he actually admitted to it years after…That was probably the most crucial dive in the history of football, and of course, who has to be on the receiving end but our beloved Oranje…We just seem to have always something going against us in the WC, the JC poolgate, Argentina paying off the opposition etc. The list seems to be endless…

One thing I actually wonder about, is for WC2010. Given the fact that it is in South Africa, with its rich Dutch history for good and for a lot of bad, I wonder how that will play out with the neutral/local fans? My guess it is not an advantage, but I could be very wrong as I have never been to SA so I wouldn’t now. Carlos (or anyone else) and thoughts on that? Besides, tickets will probably be quite expensive, so the crowd that goes to the Oranje matches may be very Holland oriented.

@finnster

ive been wondering the same thing concerning the home fans. historically speaking they should hate us, but last time i checked they loathe the english more. or maybe its so long ago they dont care anymore?

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