Comments on: Patrick Kluivert: I’m not retired yet!

By: OranjeRules

OranjeRules — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:53:06 +0000

Miguel,

How the hell can you leave The Iceman off that list??? After JC-14, Bergkamp is possibly the greatest Oranje of all time! At least he is in the debate with MVB, Gullit, Rijkaard, Koeman and Neeskens.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:17:19 +0000

Miguel,

Swap Bergkamp for RVN and Jonk for Cocu and you just listed the ‘98 team. I think that Oranje was better with Bergkamp and Jonk (though giving Cocu his due, he subbed as a striker for Kluivert in the South Korea match and for Numan as LB in the Brazil match).

Andrew

By: Miguel Rosado

Miguel Rosado — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:00:44 +0000

————-Edwin—————-

–Reizeiger–Stam-F.deBoer–Numan-

–R.deBoer–Davids-Cocu-Overmars-

——-Kluivert–Nistelrooy—

WHAT A TEAM!!!!!!

By: Miguel Rosado

Miguel Rosado — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:56:22 +0000

Ruud and Kluivert had something in common: they always appeared in big games. It’s a shame they could never really play together, when Ruud was fit Kluivert was injured and the other way around but I actually think they could’ve made a good partnership.

By: Miguel Rosado

Miguel Rosado — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:51:00 +0000

Oh man by only thinking of Patrick I get mad. He was such a talented player but he chose to have fun instead of focusing in his career.

I’d also love to have Ruud in South Africa. If he is playing well Kuyt or Huntelaar will have to be benched.

Kluivert was a great goalscorer but he was also very good with his assists.

By: ferenc

ferenc — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:17:20 +0000

interesting parallel stories: ruud and patrick were born on the same day. when patrick was famous,one of the top strikers of the world,ruud was just a talented goalscorer (between 1994-2000). patrick’s decline started between 2000 and 2002. ruud became a world class in this period. after 2002 patrick has become the shadow of himself and ruud had a very different destiny: between 2002 and 2007 he was the best striker of the world,especially in his glorious manchester years (2002-2005,although his last year was quite bad). his first madrid year was brilliant,his second was all right,but after 2005 other strikers became better than him: eto’o,drogba,ibrahimovic. patrick has gradually disappeared. he was too gifted,had lots of injury and loved too much the night life in amsterdam,barcelona etc. i’m sure that ruud will be a good striker after his long injury (would be nice to see him in south africa) and sure as well that patrick will never return to play. so so strange that such a talented player was so early finished – maybe someone else should have scored the 1-0 in the cl final against milan in 1995… i really like and respect ruud but patrick was much more gifted.

By: Jan

Jan — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:08:15 +0000

Well said Goose… Right on the money.

By: goose

goose — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:52:47 +0000

Kluivert had 2 major problems ;
1. he never had to work hard cause he was so gifted (unlike vNistelrooij f.i.), he never learned how to ‘fight’ back when things got difficult on nad off the pitch

2. Kluivert is too sensitive, he never really grew up and he lacked the strenght to be a real professional

if Kluivert had the mental strenght he could have been one of the greatest strikers ever

By: Tiju

Tiju — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:05:45 +0000

@goose man to harsh on cluivert still i remmeber Jan’s post on cluivert”unremarkable farewell for a remarkable striker”

By: Carlos

Carlos — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:44:40 +0000

His best games were in partnership with Bergkamp. When Ruud took his place in the Dutch team it was downhill for him. But I don’t think we know the full story yet ? Strangely he and Ruud were born on the same DAY.