Comments on: Oranje turned into Swiss Cheese http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:15:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-88384 goose Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:12:13 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-88384 @tjeerd; yw..can you see qualifyers?? btw; love it that these germans have won the last official international at the old ebley and now win the first one in the new Wemley...im sure the english dont like that at all btw1: this was the first match Oranje lost in August since 1920 (true!) @mario; well, i never doubted it but to be honest im less sure then before..but still think we will/should qualify..just dont think theres any need cause why go to a tournament when you know you cant win... i would love to see vanBasten leave now and be replaced but i think we both know this is niot gonna happen..he either doenst qualify and stops or he qualifies and stops after we lost in the knock-out stages of EC08...theres no other way... grtz @tjeerd; yw..can you see qualifyers??

btw; love it that these germans have won the last official international at the old ebley and now win the first one in the new Wemley…im sure the english dont like that at all

btw1: this was the first match Oranje lost in August since 1920 (true!)

@mario; well, i never doubted it but to be honest im less sure then before..but still think we will/should qualify..just dont think theres any need cause why go to a tournament when you know you cant win… i would love to see vanBasten leave now and be replaced but i think we both know this is niot gonna happen..he either doenst qualify and stops or he qualifies and stops after we lost in the knock-out stages of EC08…theres no other way…

grtz

]]> By: tjeerd http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-88356 tjeerd Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:44:55 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-88356 Jan and Goose, thanks for the analysis. I never got to see even a tape delay. Satanta in Canada http://130.94.23.190/SSCDN_live_schedule.htm showed about 4 or five other friendlies(ie Germany England) wed. and thursday. But not the swiss dutch game. Jan and Goose, thanks for the analysis. I never got to see even a tape delay. Satanta in Canada
http://130.94.23.190/SSCDN_live_schedule.htm
showed about 4 or five other friendlies(ie Germany England) wed. and thursday. But not the swiss dutch game.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-88212 Jan Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:50:52 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-88212 YO Mario :-), the Jan that mentioned that dual loyalty thing is not me. That's the other Jan. Jan the Swiss blog moderator. It's a pretty common name, Jan. And most Jan's are great football experts too... Like Mario in latin countries :-) YO Mario :-) , the Jan that mentioned that dual loyalty thing is not me. That’s the other Jan. Jan the Swiss blog moderator. It’s a pretty common name, Jan. And most Jan’s are great football experts too… Like Mario in latin countries :-)

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-88089 Mario Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:17:56 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-88089 Jan, who had doubs about supporting Netherlands or Switzerland?. Man, I thought you were only oranje fan. Jan, who had doubs about supporting Netherlands or Switzerland?. Man, I thought you were only oranje fan.

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87839 Jan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:45:58 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87839 Looking forward to that Jan, great! Meet you at the flip side :-). Looking forward to that Jan, great! Meet you at the flip side :-) .

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87811 goose Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:32:44 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87811 the swiss looked ok, nothing special (altough im not familiar with their level) but you can see that its a real team..it looked like a mediocre team but with a vision and a target (the EC08), playing at home gives you a boost...but in all fairness ; i dont see them plaing the semis at the EC...and us neither btw!!! the swiss looked ok, nothing special (altough im not familiar with their level) but you can see that its a real team..it looked like a mediocre team but with a vision and a target (the EC08), playing at home gives you a boost…but in all fairness ; i dont see them plaing the semis at the EC…and us neither btw!!!

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87809 Jan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:13:33 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87809 Hey there. I didn't get a chance to watch the game in Geneva but I didn't miss on Swiss tv. My review of the game will be published tomorrow or saturday on the Switzerland blog. I truly didn't know who to support but Switzerland was truly exciting and it looks promising for Euro 2008. Pity for the Netherlands they were very disappointing. Hey there. I didn’t get a chance to watch the game in Geneva but I didn’t miss on Swiss tv. My review of the game will be published tomorrow or saturday on the Switzerland blog.

I truly didn’t know who to support but Switzerland was truly exciting and it looks promising for Euro 2008. Pity for the Netherlands they were very disappointing.

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87776 Mario Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:01:34 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87776 Goose I agree with you on all you say except that I am not so sure we will qualify to Euro 08, with this coach, no matter who is playing, the team play is not there, no tactical game, no spirit at all, no connection between lines, man, I fear a lot we can be eliminated, Bulgaria and Romania are not easy games and if we lost like that to Switzerland anything can happen. I don´t care if it´s a friendly, van Basten has no clue of what to do with his team. I´d like Foppe de Haan to take over right now! Goose I agree with you on all you say except that I am not so sure we will qualify to Euro 08, with this coach, no matter who is playing, the team play is not there, no tactical game, no spirit at all, no connection between lines, man, I fear a lot we can be eliminated, Bulgaria and Romania are not easy games and if we lost like that to Switzerland anything can happen. I don´t care if it´s a friendly, van Basten has no clue of what to do with his team. I´d like Foppe de Haan to take over right now!

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87735 goose Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:48:19 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87735 well my frineds, yes another deception..i can live with a loss in a friendly but i cant live with the way the play(ed)..it was terrible..AGAIN!! true, we have some great names in attack but what is the purpose if you dont reach them?? 1. Stekelenburg: his first action was a terrible misreading..i even think he was too pumpd up and tought he needed to prove himself...wrong idea... had no real saves and doenst look ready for the 'big boys' 2. Emanuelson: played terrible, lot of mistakes (including what led to the penalty), no use in building up from the back 3. Kew Jaliens: we all know this already. just not good enough for Oranje (or international football i should say) 4.Heitinga: didnt play awful but as with the rest, no use in the built up, long ball not good enough, defending was ok 5. Bouma: havent real seen him all game (actually forgot he was playing, haha), well suppose he wasnt that bad cause i would have noticed! 6. Gio: nice guy, friendly, years beyond his prime, played on midfield but it didnt work 7. deZeeuw: surprised he played, not very good but not very bad either...dont know 8. Sneijder; was eager but maybe too eager..at least he showed some heart during the game but didnt play great.. one shot on goal.. 9. vdVaart; didnt work, he has problems adapting to the Oranje tactics, he not as free as he is with HSV, started on midfield but moved to the left during the game 10. vanPersie; showed some amasing skills now and then but wasnt able to make the difference, started on the left but moved behind vanNistelrooy during the first half 11. vanNistelrooy; one shot on goal in 45 min. says it all..no decent balls given to him..WC flash back.....but still, glad hes back 12. Seedorf; played ok, had a nice change right at the end but missed by about 6 miles..couldnt make the difference (again), i really hoped he would step up 13. Babel; started very strong, looked very dangerous (think at the moment hes better then Robben), had a perfect assist on Kuyt with our goal 14. Kuyt: well, guess what; he worked his ass off, made a goal but that was all, nothing more to say well; im really getting a bit worried now...still think we will qualify but we have no change of glorie at the EC08 the team is no team..its just a bunch of nice names everyone on this blog could have picked the players..its all so obvious..but vanBasten is getting paid to make it a team and he has failed..im willing to forget the past if progress was shown...there is no progress... dont know; it sucks big time!! grtz well my frineds, yes another deception..i can live with a loss in a friendly but i cant live with the way the play(ed)..it was terrible..AGAIN!!

true, we have some great names in attack but what is the purpose if you dont reach them??

1. Stekelenburg: his first action was a terrible misreading..i even think he was too pumpd up and tought he needed to prove himself…wrong idea… had no real saves and doenst look ready for the ‘big boys’
2. Emanuelson: played terrible, lot of mistakes (including what led to the penalty), no use in building up from the back
3. Kew Jaliens: we all know this already. just not good enough for Oranje (or international football i should say)
4.Heitinga: didnt play awful but as with the rest, no use in the built up, long ball not good enough, defending was ok
5. Bouma: havent real seen him all game (actually forgot he was playing, haha), well suppose he wasnt that bad cause i would have noticed!
6. Gio: nice guy, friendly, years beyond his prime, played on midfield but it didnt work
7. deZeeuw: surprised he played, not very good but not very bad either…dont know
8. Sneijder; was eager but maybe too eager..at least he showed some heart during the game but didnt play great.. one shot on goal..
9. vdVaart; didnt work, he has problems adapting to the Oranje tactics, he not as free as he is with HSV, started on midfield but moved to the left during the game
10. vanPersie; showed some amasing skills now and then but wasnt able to make the difference, started on the left but moved behind vanNistelrooy during the first half
11. vanNistelrooy; one shot on goal in 45 min. says it all..no decent balls given to him..WC flash back…..but still, glad hes back
12. Seedorf; played ok, had a nice change right at the end but missed by about 6 miles..couldnt make the difference (again), i really hoped he would step up
13. Babel; started very strong, looked very dangerous (think at the moment hes better then Robben), had a perfect assist on Kuyt with our goal
14. Kuyt: well, guess what; he worked his ass off, made a goal but that was all, nothing more to say

well; im really getting a bit worried now…still think we will qualify but we have no change of glorie at the EC08

the team is no team..its just a bunch of nice names

everyone on this blog could have picked the players..its all so obvious..but vanBasten is getting paid to make it a team and he has failed..im willing to forget the past if progress was shown…there is no progress…

dont know; it sucks big time!!

grtz

]]> By: stephen http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html/comment-page-1#comment-87665 stephen Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:25:33 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-turned-into-swiss-cheese.html#comment-87665 That is exactely the problem...no consistency at all, except for consistently playing the players out of position. Very nervous with only two weeks away from the games that count. This is it. It may be time for Foppe de Haan to take the realm who will have no problem putting guys where they are best. That is exactely the problem…no consistency at all, except for consistently playing the players out of position.

Very nervous with only two weeks away from the games that count. This is it. It may be time for Foppe de Haan to take the realm who will have no problem putting guys where they are best.

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