Comments on: Oranje, the last stand of the Dutch… http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:05:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103589 ferenc Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:02:53 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103589 and apart his goals he was awesome... he gave an assist and he could have scored two or three more goals. every time he touched the ball something interesting happened. magic clarence. and apart his goals he was awesome… he gave an assist and he could have scored two or three more goals. every time he touched the ball something interesting happened. magic clarence.

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103588 Mario Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:00:27 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103588 Clarence...yeah Ferenc, he scored with his left and then with his right leg two magnificient goals. San Marco, did you watch that game?. Clarence…yeah Ferenc, he scored with his left and then with his right leg two magnificient goals. San Marco, did you watch that game?.

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103576 ferenc Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:42:25 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103576 CLARENCE was sensational today - he's milan's best player!!! CLARENCE was sensational today – he’s milan’s best player!!!

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103541 goose Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:13:59 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103541 @ferenc; agree on the british press but a nation that big and with the history (and legeua) they have they should be there.. really like the england fans as well....since the EC96 their supporters have been pretty good and pretty well behaved i have to say; i have a soft spot for my english neighbours...still think its pretty amazing they havent really won anything..the WC66 was stolen ofcourse but it was a prize the germans had to pay for their not so nice behaviour 39-45.... tyhe ball never crossed the line @rami; maybe we just expect to much? everytime i watch these guys i expect decent, controlling, attacking football...and its never there....maybe the players know how bad they are and we dont im sure for most of these players (excpet the moraccon ones) are proud to play for Holland...international throphies are still the highest honour hope Israel will beat Guus!! @ferenc; agree on the british press but a nation that big and with the history (and legeua) they have they should be there.. really like the england fans as well….since the EC96 their supporters have been pretty good and pretty well behaved
i have to say; i have a soft spot for my english neighbours…still think its pretty amazing they havent really won anything..the WC66 was stolen ofcourse but it was a prize the germans had to pay for their not so nice behaviour 39-45…. tyhe ball never crossed the line

@rami; maybe we just expect to much? everytime i watch these guys i expect decent, controlling, attacking football…and its never there….maybe the players know how bad they are and we dont
im sure for most of these players (excpet the moraccon ones) are proud to play for Holland…international throphies are still the highest honour

hope Israel will beat Guus!!

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103530 ferenc Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:26:07 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103530 actually i wouldn't have any probleme if england didn't qualify. international press alwys consider them as one of the favourites and their performance is always poor. they won 1 wc at home in 66 and they have a forth place in 1990. that's it. at the different ec-s they have only once qualified for the last four - in 1996 at home. not too much for a "so-called" football nation. english national team and english clubs are not the same. their clubs are good because the best players are not english (arsenal,etc.). at the last wc the most boring games were played by england. funny because i love the country but really dislike their foot. actually i wouldn’t have any probleme if england didn’t qualify. international press alwys consider them as one of the favourites and their performance is always poor. they won 1 wc at home in 66 and they have a forth place in 1990. that’s it. at the different ec-s they have only once qualified for the last four – in 1996 at home. not too much for a “so-called” football nation. english national team and english clubs are not the same. their clubs are good because the best players are not english (arsenal,etc.).

at the last wc the most boring games were played by england. funny because i love the country but really dislike their foot.

]]> By: Rami http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103521 Rami Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:34:39 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103521 i agree about england.. thats a sad article jan.. albeit a true one. i think the last stand we might still have is with that new 442-like 433, with all of our best midfielders and forwards squeezed in there, and hoping melchiot,heitinga, bouma, and emanuelson dont make occasional mess of things. is it me, or do others also feel that our oranje players do not share our apocalyptic view of their nation's demise in football today? im seeing more allegiance to club rather than country.. i dont know, maybe im exagerrating. i agree about england..

thats a sad article jan.. albeit a true one.
i think the last stand we might still have is with that new 442-like 433, with all of our best midfielders and forwards squeezed in there, and hoping melchiot,heitinga, bouma, and emanuelson dont make occasional mess of things.

is it me, or do others also feel that our oranje players do not share our apocalyptic view of their nation’s demise in football today? im seeing more allegiance to club rather than country.. i dont know, maybe im exagerrating.

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103520 Mario Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:30:50 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103520 Yes Goose, the Euro needs England. Tournaments without the biggest lack something. Of course England are guilty for their mistakes but they belong to Euro 2008 but in live like in sports things don´t come for granted, you hace to earn them. About Oranje, yes, we will not do anything important there with this coach. With players like van Bommel and Kromkamp at home and wingers who are not wingers and so many changes game after game we don´t have an oiled team. I think that an excellent coach like de Haan will have a lot of success with this team and he will form a line up with only the very best playing a 4-4-2 and with each player in his right position. Anyway, I think that is the desire of many Dutch fans but the stupid Kesler and his friends seem to be the only ones who support van Basten. It is a shame that we will go to a tournament with such a competitive team to do a ridiculous job like at the World Cup. I hope I am wrong but I have said so many times: with van Basten we will not achieve anything, we will not play like we all want and far from that...we will be eliminated at the big stage in a sorry way. Yes Goose, the Euro needs England. Tournaments without the biggest lack something. Of course England are guilty for their mistakes but they belong to Euro 2008 but in live like in sports things don´t come for granted, you hace to earn them.

About Oranje, yes, we will not do anything important there with this coach. With players like van Bommel and Kromkamp at home and wingers who are not wingers and so many changes game after game we don´t have an oiled team. I think that an excellent coach like de Haan will have a lot of success with this team and he will form a line up with only the very best playing a 4-4-2 and with each player in his right position. Anyway, I think that is the desire of many Dutch fans but the stupid Kesler and his friends seem to be the only ones who support van Basten. It is a shame that we will go to a tournament with such a competitive team to do a ridiculous job like at the World Cup. I hope I am wrong but I have said so many times: with van Basten we will not achieve anything, we will not play like we all want and far from that…we will be eliminated at the big stage in a sorry way.

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103480 goose Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:04 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/oranje-the-last-stand-of-the-dutch.html#comment-103480 admire the boys??? dont think so...yes will qualify (like we all already knew) but at the EC08 there will be nothing to admire im sure why qualify if youre gonna make a fool out of yourself at the EC?? nothing for us to do there and maybe its hard to be dutch at the moment BUT not as hard as it is to be English at the moment!! would really hate it if England werent to qualify...the EC needs England!! admire the boys??? dont think so…yes will qualify (like we all already knew) but at the EC08 there will be nothing to admire im sure

why qualify if youre gonna make a fool out of yourself at the EC?? nothing for us to do there

and maybe its hard to be dutch at the moment BUT not as hard as it is to be English at the moment!!

would really hate it if England werent to qualify…the EC needs England!!

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