Oranje doesn’t know how to party!

Here’s some of our gladiators saying farewell to the fans, only to be booed off the pitch…
42.000 supporters bought a ticket for Holland-Norway already. A game without any sport significance anymore, but with lots of sentiments.
The fans want to celebrate the WC ticket with the players in De Kuip. However, history shows that Oranje isn’t good in throwing a party after having qualified.
It’s the same with what the people call the “say G’day” games, the last friendlies for the home crowd before the team travels to the big tournaments. Bert van Marwijk has announced however, that he takes this Norway game very serious. Let’s look at four recent games that should have become a party but ended with a earpiercing whistles and booing…
June 4, 2005: Holland – Australia 1-1
The agitation isn’t so much directed at Oranje but the opponent. Guus Hiddink’s Australia kicks and hits at everything that moves in the last serious test before the WC. In particular the challenges of Luke Wilkshire vs Gio van Bronckhorst fuel the anger among the players and fans.
“Disgraceful, this is so without respect. This has nothing to do with football,” says Arjen Robben who compared the Dutch dressing room with M*A*S*H. There’s hardly any real football on show for the 50.000 fans. Marco van Basten doesn’t spare his own players either. He feels that you can’t complain, you have to defend yourself and play well despite the opponent. “You can’t complain during the WC when Argentina or any other nation plays you like this. Be a man and get up and fight back. I’m actually happy with this display by Australia. It will toughen the boys up. You have to be able to handle this and I told them during the break to kick ass.”
November 21, 2007 – Belarus-Holland, 2-1.
Holland has been laughed out of Minsk before. In 2005, with Van der Sar making his debut, Belarus beat Holland 1-0. This time around, the home nation wins 2-1. It’s only four days after Holland qualified for the EC2008 against Luxembourg.
It’s -7 outside and Oranje makes a mess of things. Clarence Seedorf, among others, didn’t want to go. He’s got a full program with Milan and asks permission to stay in Italy. Marco van Basten doesn’t understand the request by a player who has recently made his come back and has a lot to play for but concurs.
Van Basten is annoyed with the attitude of certain players and decided then and there not to extend his deal with the KNVB.
June 5, Holland – Ireland 0-1.
“As far as I’m concerned they should have canceled the party afterwards. I was booed for more than 15 minutes, I’m not in the mood now,” said Jaap Stam after the Ireland game. Frank de Boer and Jaap Stam were celebrated for their big Oranje careers after the match, but the fans felt robbed and kep on booing through the ceremony.
The EC2004 is about to start, but Robbie Keane scored the winner for Ireland. The second loss in a week, after Belgium beat Dick Advocaat’s Oranje with 1-0 as wel.
Phillip Cocu: “I tried to speak to the fans via the microphone but I couldn’t get through the booing. I do hope the people will support us from now on again. We need that.” Stam agrees. “I understand that the fans are disappointed and want to let the team know, but once the game is over and ex-internationals are formally thanked for their roles, I think the boo-ers and whistlers should have stopped. Next time, they can stay home as far as I’m concerned…”
October 12, 2005: Holland – Macedonia 0-0
Van Basten’s Oranje has qualified for the WC 2006 in Germany and plays the last game against Macedonia in a brightly orange Amsterdam ArenA. Never before was the vibe “as orange” as with this game, the paper AD stated.
“It’s not just the fans, dressed in orange. The whole stadium was refurbished in the national colors. There were balloons and banners throughout the whole venue.”
The players were keen to throw a party but the Balkan players didn’t wanna play. Oranje couldn’t break them down and a boring game was the result. The highlight of the game was Edgar David’s return in Oranje after 364 days.
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In our older boys (last generation) cluivert and davids,stam only had the mind of a champion team.Zeadorf was brilliant but he needs more skilled players arround him win the cup.thats why they couldnt win any cup(ECs and WCs).The game against italy was a master example of that.
This time also i fear about the uncourageousness of some players like heitinga,Gio,Ooiger,Vannestelrooy etc.But rest of them are quite ok.that is the main difference from current team and last generation.it is very difficult to drop RVN.but we should do that with some pain.patric veira points out that.and hopefully vanmarwijk will not give kuyt as a central striker.But a combination of hunter,kuyt with znijder and roban/RVP is deadlier than any attack in the world.(see the liver pool stati).
ultimatley combinations +individual skills will win the game.
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All I remember of Seedorf is that he often wasted chances by shooting far over the goal, or far wide, when he should have given a pass.
I aso remember him making a couple of crucial mistakes that resulted in countergoals that either forced us into a penalty-shootout or just completely lost the match from that point on.
I don’t even mind the missing penalties as much, that just happens (allthough, I still don’t understand why they let him take a penalty against Italy when he had done so badly with penalty shootouts earlier).
OK, he did score occasionally, but often he was just too nervous or something whenever he played for Oranje.
I don’t think it was really something you can blame him for though, don’t get me wrong, I just think he started out well for Oranje and then got into a negative spiral of emotions whenever he had to play for Oranje that caused him to play below his own capabilities.
I still think the Italy game (EC2000) might have turned out differently if he hadn’t played, and I’m not talking about the penalties, I think we would have scored in regular play, at least perhaps we would have had some more or better chances and less chances gone to waste.
So, I’m glad he’s gone (sorry for Seedorf, he seemed to try real hard, but he just felt to me like a bad-luck charm to that awesome team around that time that should have produced so much more wins).
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Sol:
Seedorf didnĀ“t take a penalty vs. Italy in 2000 but he did it vs. France in Euro 96 and he was the only player missing and we were eliminated for his mistake. Then Oranje was playing to qualify for World Cup 1998 he took another penalty vs. Turkey and he missed again and we lost 1-0 in Istanbul. Since that he never took a penalty for Holland but he did it with Milan and he failed many times as well…I never saw him scoring a penalty.
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@Tiju – what are you going on about?? Ruud is the utmost professional with the best of mentalities. Every one who plays with him talks about his winning mentality, focus and intensity. He’s never set a foot wrong for Oranje. And you want to drop him because you read some quote from that douchebag Viera?? Of course Viera doesn’t like him because of the huge Arsenal vs. Man U rivalry from before and especially since Ruud got him sent off when Viera kicked out at him. Ridiculous.
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