No one laughs at Van der Sar anymore…

Great article. I don’t know how can anyone doubt about if Edwin is good or not!!!. At least this journalist could finally see the real truth before he passed away about Edwin because to me Edwin’s recent performances are not a surprise at all!!, he has had some mistakes but very few if I must say compared to other goalies. He plays the ball great with his feet, safe goalie since he was with Ajax so I really don’t see the surprise here.

@Edwin lacked charisma thats true,but his reflex and brillinace is uncomparable,it may be above buffon.I think,In manchester he is bit lucky coz he got a charismatic coach and excellent diffenders.

Posted from  India

@alex i read your previous comment on locked dutch diffence under BVM,i too feel its true,but the oldies gio,de cler,ooiger should be dropped from the team.under vanbasten we depended VDS a lot that was evident in all those matches,our diffence was crap and with luck and VDS we survived.
if we are dropping brafheid for de cler and bauma for gio it will be big mistake and it will become like a sin,like for kuyt and haiselink vanbasten dropped hunter and finally kuyt kicked our ass against portugalWC2006.
and vander weil and zuiverloon should be called up ,we need such kind of diffenders in Southafrica.hope for the full fitness of vlaar and luirnk.
one headache is finished that was englaar,
our holdingmids ranking
1-schaars
2-de jong
3-mendes da silva
4-vanbommel
5-demy de saaw
6-maduro
7-englaar

Posted from  India

our central striker rankings
1-nestelrooy
2-huntlaar
3-vanpersie
4-babel
all these players are good finishers (world class finishers)they will never let us cry after the game(if they get good support from back like we played against portugal WC).
rest of them are simply not eligible for central striker spot in orange and they look other postions-
but surpraising thing is our formula is 14321 so ie,only one central striker position,with all these main options why we are wasting spots for hailselink and co?

Posted from  India

who are our real wingers?
1-Roban
2-castelen
3-Afaleey any others?
ohhhh no i forgot great kuyt
ok let kuyt be no
4-kuyt?
so where will we accomodate superstars vaart and znijder?

Posted from  India

I wouldnt call Afellay winger, mainly because he doesnt play on the wing. There’s a few Dutch wingers in the Eredivisie as well… not too many in the top clubs though… Amrabat in PSV, Leonardo in Ajax, Elia, Denneboom and Gerritsen in Twente, Beerens in Heerenveen.

I really like Daniel de Ridder in Wigan and I’m quite curious about Marvin Emnes in Boro.

wingers:
robben
beerens
drenthe
v.d.meijde

makeshift wingers:
kuijt
elia
sneijder
amrabat
babel
afellay
v.persie
kalou

Posted from  United States

Biseswar is sort of a winger, so is Slory, but he’s crap anyway. Julian Jenner was a winger, but his career is screwed up.
I think it’s quite obvious though who actually deserve to/should play for oranje right now. At least when putting Seedorf, V.d.Sar aside

————Vermeer
Heitinga-V.Bommel-Mathijsen-Braafheid
——–De Jong-Schaars
Kuyt——-V.Persie——-Robben
———–Huntelaar

Posted from  Netherlands

@Tiju – Babel, a world class finisher?? We are talking about Ryan Babel who plays for Liverpool right? Whose missed a bunch of sitters already this season? Even Kuyt finishes better than Babel!

Posted from  Canada

@Tiju and Caleb: I’m afraid Caleb is very right on the Babel front. And by the way, Kuyt’s finishing isn’t actually all that bad at all. It is just that he isn’t a Van Goal or Torres and never will be. His biggest weakness in my opinion is that he lacks that killer instinct to read ahead where the ball eventually will be.

However, when he does get the chance, he is pretty decent at putting them away. It should only happen much more often. Which is why I like him best playing on the right midfield, running opposition raggid, attacking yet coming back and cover for the right back if he’s gone forward..etc..Not many workhorses around in todays game like that.

Kuyt should be used on the midfield, and his batteries and attitude should be copied to the rest of Oranje. He seems like a real stand up man outside the field too, and I respect that.

@finnister and caleb
Even ruud,henry missess some good chances thats wat i mean,bael would have missed but he is a natural finisher thats wat i said.

Posted from  India

babel

Posted from  India

Sorry Tiju, there’s absolutely no comparing Babel and Ruud (or Henry). He’s definitely not a natural finisher. He’s quick and athletic, and so maybe he can create more chances, but he needs more chances to score because he’s less efficient. Maybe he’s more similar to Kluivert? But he’s probably not as good a finisher as Kluivert either.

Posted from  Canada

Sorry Tiju, there’s absolutely no comparing Babel and Ruud (or Henry). He’s definitely not a natural finisher. He’s quick and athletic, and so maybe he can create more chances, but he needs more chances to score because he’s less efficient. Maybe he’s more similar to Kluivert? But he’s probably not as good a finisher as Kluivert even.

Posted from  Canada

@caleb i just compared with kuyt and babel as a finisher,i found babel is far better with respect to his verylimited playing time,kuyt gets more playing time coz of his workrate

Posted from  India