NED 0-1 POR: FT…Wow

Lol at Goose & Rami. Let me start off with Goose. Who are you calling handbags? I’m not Portuguese. I’m American buddy. And yeah i read your posts. It was filled with excuses and arguing with that guy Mario F. Lastly I would like to say what the heck is a wanker? Get better comebacks homie. Now off to Rami. “Dude you’re hilarious.. I feel like you’re expecting to meet your gods in heaven some day..” (Rami) First of all don’t call me dude because we’re not boys. Let me remind you or shall I say enlighten you Remi that Portugal was the best team in Euro 04. How soon people forget lol. Portugal will easily defeat England. That means a semi-final berth and that to me is special. Since you decided to jump in my convo with Goose the Loose I might as well leave a couple lines for you. Your living in Russia so why don’t you start concentrating with your own country. Try qualifying for the World Cup first then you can start talking lol.

micha.. your so wrong. thats why we’ve eliminated you guys both in Euro 04 and now. wow your cooool. Portuguese rats you say. re-watch the game. Not as a fan, as someone passionate for the game. You just see it as your team loosing. Go cry a riverr. =’(….. VIVA PORTUGAl.

Posted from  United States

Leonardo and all others who wish to listen:

i realise and accept that i was very one-sided in my evaluation (re. the post directlty below the post in question) but i still stand by my overall conclusion that the Refereeing was a complete shamble. He failed to give cards where due and gave cards when not deserved (this includes both teams) but i feel that the turning point was the drop-ball situation in which the Dutch didn’t give back posession…. despite the actions of the Dutch (right or wrong, but certainly not illegal) what Deco did next was completely illegal, and for the Portugese fans to sit and say that ‘The Dutch were unsportsmanslike’ while the Portugese blatantly took out Hetinga is complete hypocricy, they have no moral yard stick on which to base the Dutch teams sportsmanship when they act in the same manner (retaliation or otherwise).

The fact is that IF (and that is a big if)…. IF that 2 minutes of footage was presented to a tribunal, a court, or any form of analysis based on the RULES AND LAWS of the game (not the subjective position of sportsmanship) then the Dutch would not have a case to answer for whereas the Portugese would, and that is an indisputable fact.

The Referee then completely lost control of the game after he failed to give Figo a red card ater the head-butt. This send off would have changed the match drastically, Porto would be down to 9 men, Boularhouz would not have been sent off for the challenge on Figo because Figo would not be on the field…. it would still be 11 on 9. The Portugese then attack Oijer, it is about 10 Portugese hoons on one Dutchman… even Scolari has a go, but nothing is done.

Honestly, after that many incorrect decisions (or the lack of correct decisions) the Dutch completely lose their cool (i admit that this is cerainly no way to act) but this whole problem stems from Figo and his big head which troubed the Dutch twice in one match (ie. head-butt and elbow by Boula).

So the Referee and Figo’s big head certainly affected the outcome of the match. Whether the Dutch deserved to win or lose i am not arguing (though many of you think that i am) i am arguing that the Referee played a major (and detrimental on the behalf of the Dutch) part in the outcome of this match, nothing else.

Posted from  Australia

Sev

That is the most illogical thing that i have ever heard.

To call Dutch people losers within a Dutch world cup blog is simply throwing petrol on fire… one of the reasons for these blogs is for the supporters of that team to state their points of view and vent their frustration with others who, to some extent, share the same views….. NOT for outsiders such as you to come in and begin to kick a goup of people who are already down. Do you think that many of us don’t already feel like crap?

This blog allows people to express their opinion, which is understandably, often going to be biased, and for you to fail to realise this is quite stupid.

So to Sev and all others like him… you input is welcomed if it is reasonable and you do not resort to name-calling and other childish acts.

Otherwise, i suggest that you stick to your own blog and bicker amongst yourselves.

Posted from  Australia

i could not agree more with ayl18. You took the words right out of my mouth. But then again, most portugese fans coming here probably still go to school, and sums up the reason for the childish behaviour. But that happens, it football. I sincerly do not feel like watching any of the world cups anymore, because the games get to borring, and the amount of quality of a game decreases alot by the ref, by the opposition. Ill wait two more years before i turn on my screen to watch FOOTBALL. Cheers

Posted from  Oman

The Netherlands were a threat to every team in this World Cup, no doubt. The Portugal and Netherlands game though was a game that the Portuguese were extremly lucky to get past the dutch, the dutch are a much better team. Portugal are the pussies, not the dutch. They didn’t want to play soccer, they would rather waste the clock, in which portugal did and yeah netherlands should have gotten a penalty kick on that play where the one guy went for a header and some portuguese fag came in and kicked the shit out of him in the back or shoulder.. oh well the dutch will be back. Portugal and their fans shouldn’t be proud of anything for their so called “win”. No soccer was played in that match and the ref got it out of hand and so did the players, the dutch arn’t all to blame, its portugal.

Posted from  Canada

Jan…im back Fifa revoged my red card!

Micha…you are so close to me..but so far from the truth.. :))

First: In case you dutch forgot…

PORTUGAL WON( ONCE MORE ) TO HOLLAND!! - the rest are all excuses..because of this…because of that…bla…bla…bla…

Second: WE WILL WON ENGLAND ( LIKE WE ALWAYS DO )WITH OUR 2 TEAM…( england is no match for us, never was and never will be )

Third, the only guys that have to complain about the ref. is Australia..that was a scandall..and made all the difference in the result.

Posted from  Sweden

@Mario F, would you please get yourself a life my friend..its becoming boring

@Danny, im sure you still havent read my posts, theres no blaming anybody or anyone there..
my remark on the handbags was a general one, not directed personally to you, its true i have a few words with MarioF but hate this kicking people when they are down, non of your business…

The term wanker has also been extended as a generic insult to cover self-aggrandizement … Various jocular rhyming slang terms exist for wanker and wank, …,
hope now you understand RUKKER..!!!

well, hope all you Holland bashers had your fun, now go away..

@all Holland fans: KEEP UP THE SPIRIT, WELL BE BACK

Posted from  Netherlands

i’m not proud of portuguese players’ beahaviour, they clearly lost it… but just a couple of remarks

van basten tactics were put 4 men around Deco and scare the shit out of Ronaldo

it was like, “they play better but we will win because we are tougher”

but ronaldo was sent out with an injury with a foul on the 8th minute

then both red cards to portugal are for getting a yellow on stupid behaviour not violent behaviour

portugal made 9 fouls and got 11 yellow cards (this is amazing maths, really)

I hope the guys in holland forgive theirselves for trying to beat portugal with bully tactics because i have a few friends there

get a real dutch coach, like Gus Hiddink, Ronald Koeman, Frank Rijkard or Co Adrianse…

then the netherlands will beat portugal because they have better (like they always did) tactis, though they will never have better players (we always will)

Posted from  Portugal

I’m a portuguese fan. Although the game was disgraceful you need a winner. I’ve said this before when Portugal have bowed out of tournaments in the past…

Like against Greece 2 years ago:
IF YOU CANNOT put the ball in the net, you don’t deserve to win; no matter what else happens.

Posted from  Canada

What I saw was two of the best teams in the tournament (individual player skills, teamwork and a certain myth) shoving eachother like imbeciles. Robben and Costinha should be asskicked for those antics, one should transfer to olympic diving (or acting, such a crybaby he was on the pitch), the other to handball or volleyball. Van Basten showed he is not a good boss, by deliberately instructing his boys to hurt Cristiano Ronaldo, heckle the opposition and for not putting on the right players. All I have to say is that this is not the Dutch side I have been seeing and supporting for more than a quarter of a century, whereas the Portuguese are avoiding the kind of scenes that took place at Euro 2000 and WC2002, they remained quite calm (most of them) when all those shenanigans with the ref happened, while the Dutch fellows behaved like andalusians.

Thanks goose for your exquisite definition of the term wanker. It was riveting, with the choice of content used. I truly feel I’m a bit more wiser with European slang after that lol.

Posted from  United States

You are intitled to have an opinion. However, I believe that the dutch were the ones who started that crap when C. Ronaldo was brutally kicked. If that “referee” had showed the agressor a red card maybe Portugal would have won by 3 or 4, but the Portuguese team had to play 10 against 11 since minute 6v because C.Ronaldo couldn’t even walk.
You seem to be very patriotic. So am I. We won and you lost. Find the excuses you wish to make yourself feel better. My flag is still standing. When our teams meet again, IF your players play soccer instead of kickbox and the referee is normal, then you will see my team winning by a larger difference. It’s my opinion.
Well and you beef who said “u watch the english will wipe the floor with u portugese wimps!!!” let’s remember what happended two years ago. Who wiped the floor then? Remember Ricardo? He will be there again. Prepare yourself. The portuguese “wimps”(isn’t that your surname?!) will do it again. Long live Portugal

Posted from  Portugal

HUP HOLLAND HUP !

Let’s get The Euro 2008 Trophy !

Posted from  Indonesia

i think that every one should stop pointing fingures.. If the reff wasnt so horrible, the game wouldn’t have been the same. Both the portuguese and the dutch have clean teams, but the Portuguese had luck on their side to get their goal, but what bugs me is the dutch fans keep complaining that we cheated, when we got a goal. they had a good 54 minutes to do that in the second half. Yes there were intruptions, but they had many chances, just couldnt get one in. I’m sorry Dutch fans that we were the ones to advance, but thats soccer. I just think their shouldnt be negativity in this blog, because its childish and uncalled for. Good luck 2008 though. We’ll be ready for you guys.

& for the portuguese fans. Guys common. we won, why fight in a blog? Some peoples opinion of the game wont take it back or make it better. Leave the dutch and their fans alone and go to the portuguese blog…

Posted from  United States

Holland should have won that game. I hope portugual gets cheated out of their next game. IF any portugual players are reading this, how much was it to bribe the ref?

Posted from  United States

Hey guys, I think there are enough comments about the game. Lets forget about the game and come up with advices for Marco Van Basten. I totally agree with how ppl said it was the lack of experience that brought the Dutch to their downfall. First of all, they are too many young players in this squad, while the likes of Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf are excluded. I remember seeing someone suggesting that the Dutch should use the 4-1-3-2 formation. Its a very good combination, but I think the idea of puting van persie and robben as midfielders is not wise. The reason is because as a right and left midfielder, they will tend to help out the defense sometimes, which wasted these two attack-minded players. Honestly speaking, Van persie is not up to par. His finish can be considered as horrible. I think in EC 2008 the Dutch should still stick with 4-3-3, the reason is that this formation is the formation that fully shows what football is made of. Although the 4-1-3-2 is rather a more stable formation, 4-3-3 is a formation that creates more opportunites for all the players. Maybe Im a bit biased because I personally prefer 4-3-3 formation over any other formation.

Think back to the match, the Por won because they also used a 4-3-3 formation. They did better because they have better wingers and better defense. If Robben can improve, and Kuyt continues to improve as well, one day the Dutch 4-3-3 can overcome any rivals in the EC 2008 or possibly WC 2010. Think about the clubs that have used the 4-3-3 formation. Successful clubs such as Chelsea and Barca all use the 4-3-3 formation. This is because the coaches know that only 4-3-3 can truly display the art of attacking football.

Anyway, I have said enough. I hope someone can respond to my comments.

Posted from  Canada

well put Dason

Posted from  United States

If this CUP knows who should be hounred with the title it will not think other than argentina and if the refree matter goes will for them nothing will stop them and U should open your eyes and watch the new ( campions )

Vamoos Argentina

Posted from  Bahrain

each successful team won the final because of insisting on their own traditional style

no dubt Nederland should use 433 if they want win ec2008.

The problem is that their midfielder need improve

maybe the combination of Schaars Maduro and Sneijder is a good choice

VanBasten should do his best at whole team’s cooperation of attack or defence

Posted from  Australia

Damn these idiots… i just can´t believe my eyes while i was reading this posts about the game NEDvsPOR… Please pull your heads out of your “arsses” and start watching football games with a little bit of head and not only with your hearts… The dutch players add orders to injure C.Ronaldo from the beginning and to kick everyone and stall, and when the portuguese scored earlier their foul tactic started to fail… they got confused and started wasting their own time (yes, they were loosing) by making fouls whenever the portuguese team counter-attacked. The portuguese team entered on the field to play football and the dutch not, they opened the hostilities by kicking C.Ronaldo the first 2 times he touched the ball (2 yellow cards, one should had been a red one) and yes, they were the ones that kept throwing themselves on the ground (unfortunetly everyone does that now, but in this game the dutch did it the most…) About the ref… don’t make me laugh, the dutch kicked and simulated like hell and saw less yellow cards, the portuguese saw 9 yellows out of 10 fouls, and the red cards… one for hand-on-ball in mid-field and the other for grabbing the ball for 2 seconds while the game was stopped(not for “assaulting” other players like the dutch players…) And last but not least… The famous “fairplay”!!! Did you know that FIFA made every team sign a document with some rules to comply about fairplay?!? Yes, they did, and one of the basic rules is to return the ball to the opponent if they thrown it out to stop the game because of an injurie. The dutch failed to do that… TWICE!!! nough said!!
JOGA BONITO!!!

Posted from  Portugal

you lost holland…its was not cheating…….Portugal won fairly…they scored a goal and that is what matter.

You tryed to criple Portugal by hurting C. Ronaldo…it was obvious…clearly that is a red card.

Costinha got a red card…he is not all that great in Portugal ..and Figo should have gotton a red card…what did you want Figo to do…..go to the referee and say…”hey I deserve a red car”…

Dam …you dutch as sore losers…you could not win with a man down twice in the game..

Clearly you are the losers….

Posted from  Bermuda

message to Portugese fans:

look in the mirror when talking about lack of fair play of the dutch

i think portugese football is full of cheating and related stuff, never liked it, now i see all your comments i am even more convinced:

Portugal is a very beautiful country, port is a great, fado music is great, lisboa is great but portugese football and fans are completely the opposite: ugly and sad. I hope England will kick this team out.

Furthermore: let’s meet at EURO 2008, see who’s gonna win this time!

GO GHANA
GO HOLLAND!

Posted from  Netherlands

What a poor show from the Dutch, very unsportsmen like. I am ashamed to be dutch. We used too much excessive force. We where too emotional. I think Boulahrouz is an idiot. Why did we start with him! The ref should be banded!

I completely agree with Mike. The Portuguese are only talented at bringing out the worst in other teams. Their lack of football skills is made up for their diving abilities, and rolling around on the pitch in the hope of getting a free kick. Utterly disgraceful. Shame on FIFA for not allowing video replays.

Posted from  Sweden