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	<title>Comments on: Johan Derksen: Support ex-players as coach</title>
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		<title>By: ferenc</title>
		<link>http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-derksen-support-ex-players-as-coach.html/comment-page-1#comment-125598</link>
		<dc:creator>ferenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@goose: frantisek fadrhonc (?) was Tcheck. Stefan Kovacs (ajax 71-73) was a Roumanian who belonged to the Hungarian minority in Roumania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@goose: frantisek fadrhonc (?) was Tcheck. Stefan Kovacs (ajax 71-73) was a Roumanian who belonged to the Hungarian minority in Roumania.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
		<link>http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-derksen-support-ex-players-as-coach.html/comment-page-1#comment-125521</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that at the moment there are enough quality Dutch coaches around to not warrant appointing a foreign manager.  However the concept itself is not foreign (bad pun?).  Fadhronc (a Czech I think) coached Oranje to the 1974 WK, the first since 1938, before Michels took over.  Ernst Happel from Austria was in charge of the 1978 WK side.  And at club level Stefan Kovacs coached Ajax to back to back European Cup wins in the &#039;70s.  Those European Cup wins were paved in large part by Vic Buckingham, an English coach

I&#039;m sure that if you went back to the days before and just after WWII when the approach Dutch football took(especially the national team) remained amateurish there would be many more foreign coaches in charge of Oranje ... maybe even English coaches!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that at the moment there are enough quality Dutch coaches around to not warrant appointing a foreign manager.  However the concept itself is not foreign (bad pun?).  Fadhronc (a Czech I think) coached Oranje to the 1974 WK, the first since 1938, before Michels took over.  Ernst Happel from Austria was in charge of the 1978 WK side.  And at club level Stefan Kovacs coached Ajax to back to back European Cup wins in the &#8217;70s.  Those European Cup wins were paved in large part by Vic Buckingham, an English coach</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that if you went back to the days before and just after WWII when the approach Dutch football took(especially the national team) remained amateurish there would be many more foreign coaches in charge of Oranje &#8230; maybe even English coaches!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for him too..  it looks like his condition and proneness to injury is just going from bad to worse.

And Real just lost to Mallorca at the Copa Del Rey.. Sneijder is in a slump, he is in a bad form in my opinion.. always being subbed, not making an impact.. he needs to get back to the top of his game soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for him too..  it looks like his condition and proneness to injury is just going from bad to worse.</p>
<p>And Real just lost to Mallorca at the Copa Del Rey.. Sneijder is in a slump, he is in a bad form in my opinion.. always being subbed, not making an impact.. he needs to get back to the top of his game soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Rosado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Rosado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a huge fan of Robben but I think I haven&#039;t seen another player who gets injured as often as he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge fan of Robben but I think I haven&#8217;t seen another player who gets injured as often as he does.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell is wrong with Arjen, he gets an injury doesn&#039;t play for several months. He then plays one or two games, and he gets injured again. Isn&#039;t he supposed to get stronger after an injury?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is wrong with Arjen, he gets an injury doesn&#8217;t play for several months. He then plays one or two games, and he gets injured again. Isn&#8217;t he supposed to get stronger after an injury?</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Igor; thats great to hear... you know; i actually think it would be perfect if he would start playing just 2 months before the WC, nice and rested but with enough playingtime to get in the grove, 

i remember vanBasten at the EC88 who was injured all season long and was just about fit on time... he than played a rather good EC88, that kind of scenario would suit me just fine!

vanPersie is VITAL for any hopes we might have (and hopes are not high, at least not here in Holland, thats the first time people have been so negative about dutch changes for glory in my lifetime)

grtz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Igor; thats great to hear&#8230; you know; i actually think it would be perfect if he would start playing just 2 months before the WC, nice and rested but with enough playingtime to get in the grove, </p>
<p>i remember vanBasten at the EC88 who was injured all season long and was just about fit on time&#8230; he than played a rather good EC88, that kind of scenario would suit me just fine!</p>
<p>vanPersie is VITAL for any hopes we might have (and hopes are not high, at least not here in Holland, thats the first time people have been so negative about dutch changes for glory in my lifetime)</p>
<p>grtz</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goose, i just read that wenger is not going to play van persie in the epl this weekend...the excuse given was that he came down with the flu, but my guess is that they are being cautious with his injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goose, i just read that wenger is not going to play van persie in the epl this weekend&#8230;the excuse given was that he came down with the flu, but my guess is that they are being cautious with his injury.</p>
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		<title>By: goose</title>
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		<dc:creator>goose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@finnster; hahaha .. always nice to have a go at little Ronnie

Good points made by all of you on the foreign manager thing... but we already had a foreign Bondscoach; George Knobel(Austrian) i think, and also Fadronsh (?) some hungarian guy (ferenc help!!!), both in the 70&#039;s....Jan, some help please

i really hadnt tought of the financial aspect of it all .. Rijkaard / vanBasten; what kind of money would they make??? its very dutch to NOT discuss wages etc., you never ask a person how much money he makes and its a non-issue when its about Bondscoaches.. 

Ericson for me is the example of hell, he made millions, f his p.a., didnt make an impact on the big stages and i think the FA is still paying him now...(hes doing well at City tough), 

actually heard that vanMarwijk is very high on the KNVB list...well just have to wait and see

Robben; well, think you all know im not quit his biggest fan but i feel kinda sorry for him now... looks like hes just not built for pro football (or maybe he started too young, he played Eredivisie in the strarting line-up when he was 16 (came to the training by bike i rememeber). i had given up on him already for the EC...read he makes 10 mln euros bruto (dont know the english word) a year!! think theyre not to happy at Real now

Great to see Ruud sign a new contract...hats off, he has really proved me wrong..i thought he wouldnt succeed at Real, i was pretty wrong

vanPersie should take it very slowly...no risks please..we need vanPersie, hope Wenger goes easy on him...good thing is that Arsenal are doing fine so i dont think Wengers in a hurry

and Bob; happy NewYear mate!! hope 2008 will bring us glory!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@finnster; hahaha .. always nice to have a go at little Ronnie</p>
<p>Good points made by all of you on the foreign manager thing&#8230; but we already had a foreign Bondscoach; George Knobel(Austrian) i think, and also Fadronsh (?) some hungarian guy (ferenc help!!!), both in the 70&#8217;s&#8230;.Jan, some help please</p>
<p>i really hadnt tought of the financial aspect of it all .. Rijkaard / vanBasten; what kind of money would they make??? its very dutch to NOT discuss wages etc., you never ask a person how much money he makes and its a non-issue when its about Bondscoaches.. </p>
<p>Ericson for me is the example of hell, he made millions, f his p.a., didnt make an impact on the big stages and i think the FA is still paying him now&#8230;(hes doing well at City tough), </p>
<p>actually heard that vanMarwijk is very high on the KNVB list&#8230;well just have to wait and see</p>
<p>Robben; well, think you all know im not quit his biggest fan but i feel kinda sorry for him now&#8230; looks like hes just not built for pro football (or maybe he started too young, he played Eredivisie in the strarting line-up when he was 16 (came to the training by bike i rememeber). i had given up on him already for the EC&#8230;read he makes 10 mln euros bruto (dont know the english word) a year!! think theyre not to happy at Real now</p>
<p>Great to see Ruud sign a new contract&#8230;hats off, he has really proved me wrong..i thought he wouldnt succeed at Real, i was pretty wrong</p>
<p>vanPersie should take it very slowly&#8230;no risks please..we need vanPersie, hope Wenger goes easy on him&#8230;good thing is that Arsenal are doing fine so i dont think Wengers in a hurry</p>
<p>and Bob; happy NewYear mate!! hope 2008 will bring us glory!!</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>van persie played the first half of arsenal&#039;s carling cup semi-final tie yesterday. he had a few nice touches and passes but failed to make much of an impact on the game and obviously needs to more playing time to sharpen up his game. but its good news to see him getting over his injuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>van persie played the first half of arsenal&#8217;s carling cup semi-final tie yesterday. he had a few nice touches and passes but failed to make much of an impact on the game and obviously needs to more playing time to sharpen up his game. but its good news to see him getting over his injuries.</p>
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		<title>By: FlyingDutch</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlyingDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robben just got a new injury.</description>
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