Comments on: Johan Cruyff: Ajax set Marco up for failure! http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:05:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: OranjeRules http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166710 OranjeRules Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:46:36 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166710 VofH is out of contract at Celtic and rumoured to be headed back to PSV on a free transfer. He had a terrible year with the Hoops. I do like him coming of the bench, he has scored some big goals for Oranje as a substitute! VofH is out of contract at Celtic and rumoured to be headed back to PSV on a free transfer. He had a terrible year with the Hoops.

I do like him coming of the bench, he has scored some big goals for Oranje as a substitute!

]]> By: Big Mark http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166706 Big Mark Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:39:36 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166706 @OranjeRules-- Did I say RVN? I don't think he'll ever offer to come back (damn!) I meant JVofH. Now there's a Dutchman who's playing (Vice Captain!) on a top club, proven in the center and on the wing, and with plenty of experience. Is he coming back to PSV next season? Makaay is old, but he can still lead and score...unless Liverpool puts Babel in their starting rotation (or he gets sold), he will not develop and his playing and attitude will be like deadwood to the team. @OranjeRules–

Did I say RVN? I don’t think he’ll ever offer to come back (damn!) I meant JVofH. Now there’s a Dutchman who’s playing (Vice Captain!) on a top club, proven in the center and on the wing, and with plenty of experience. Is he coming back to PSV next season?

Makaay is old, but he can still lead and score…unless Liverpool puts Babel in their starting rotation (or he gets sold), he will not develop and his playing and attitude will be like deadwood to the team.

]]> By: OranjeRules http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166702 OranjeRules Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:34:56 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166702 Caleb - I think you are a tad hard on Babel but I have to admit his development has been stunted. Babel really would not be replacing Old Horsey Face anyway, Hunter would. And in my squad Hunter is on the bench. You really think RVN would want to be the 3'rd CF even if he did return to Oranje? One return I think is possible is van der Sar. I think BVM may be able to convince Big Ed to return to Oranje in time for some tune up friendlies next spring. Perhaps its just wishful thinking but I think its possible. Caleb – I think you are a tad hard on Babel but I have to admit his development has been stunted.

Babel really would not be replacing Old Horsey Face anyway, Hunter would. And in my squad Hunter is on the bench. You really think RVN would want to be the 3′rd CF even if he did return to Oranje?

One return I think is possible is van der Sar. I think BVM may be able to convince Big Ed to return to Oranje in time for some tune up friendlies next spring. Perhaps its just wishful thinking but I think its possible.

]]> By: Caleb http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166698 Caleb Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:08:10 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166698 @OranjeRules - what good are having more options on where to play a player (Babel), if he's just going to be useless wherever you put him? Sure, we could put him on the wing or forward (midfield? I don't think so...), but he's just going to lose the ball and miss his shots anyways. Seriously, I can't believe you would pick Babel ahead of Ruud. Although it's all hypothetical anyways, since Ruud isn't playing for the NT at the moment. I do agree with you that Makaay's days are long gone though. @OranjeRules – what good are having more options on where to play a player (Babel), if he’s just going to be useless wherever you put him? Sure, we could put him on the wing or forward (midfield? I don’t think so…), but he’s just going to lose the ball and miss his shots anyways. Seriously, I can’t believe you would pick Babel ahead of Ruud. Although it’s all hypothetical anyways, since Ruud isn’t playing for the NT at the moment. I do agree with you that Makaay’s days are long gone though.

]]> By: Oranje_For_Life http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166680 Oranje_For_Life Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:43:58 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166680 I think that the majority of the people on here, if have to choose, would place Sneijder instead of VDV. Sneijder is more physical and faster, but VDV is more technical (his visionary passes). I see no problem with having both VDV and Sneijder on the same line up. Mathijsen -- Boulahrouz V.D.Wiel Braafheid M.V.Bommel -- De Jong Sneijder V.D.V R.V.P -- K.J.H I think that the majority of the people on here, if have to choose, would place Sneijder instead of VDV. Sneijder is more physical and faster, but VDV is more technical (his visionary passes). I see no problem with having both VDV and Sneijder on the same line up.

Mathijsen — Boulahrouz

V.D.Wiel Braafheid

M.V.Bommel — De Jong

Sneijder

V.D.V

R.V.P — K.J.H

]]> By: Gerard http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166667 Gerard Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:59:05 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166667 I like Cruyff's comments as always. To me it comes down to an alternative between something like this: -------------Stekelenburg-------------- Heitinga-Boulahrouz-Mathijsen-Braafheid --------Van Bommel---De Jong----------- ---Van Persie---Sneijder----Robben----- -------------Kuyt/Huntelaar------- Or else with Van Bommel as libero and Sneijder as a deeper-lying playmaker: -------------Stekelenburg------------- Heitinga-Van Bommel-Mathijsen-Braafheid ----------Sneijder---De Jong----------- --Van Persie----vd Vaart----Robben----- -------------Kuyt/Huntelaar----- I really like the look of this 2nd lineup since I think it's one of the only ways Sneijder and vd Vaart can play together without getting in other's way. I like Cruyff’s comments as always. To me it comes down to an alternative between something like this:

————-Stekelenburg————–
Heitinga-Boulahrouz-Mathijsen-Braafheid
——–Van Bommel—De Jong———–
—Van Persie—Sneijder—-Robben—–
————-Kuyt/Huntelaar——-

Or else with Van Bommel as libero and Sneijder as a deeper-lying playmaker:

————-Stekelenburg————-
Heitinga-Van Bommel-Mathijsen-Braafheid
———-Sneijder—De Jong———–
–Van Persie—-vd Vaart—-Robben—–
————-Kuyt/Huntelaar—–

I really like the look of this 2nd lineup since I think it’s one of the only ways Sneijder and vd Vaart can play together without getting in other’s way.

]]> By: OranjeRules http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166664 OranjeRules Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:14:50 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166664 Big Mark - Babel offers more options than Old Horsey Face (wing and midfield play) and Hunter does what he does only better now. I can't see a spot for RVN. Makaay's days are long past. Vennergoor of Hessilink maybe, Old Horsey Face and Old Roy no! Big Mark – Babel offers more options than Old Horsey Face (wing and midfield play) and Hunter does what he does only better now. I can’t see a spot for RVN.

Makaay’s days are long past.

Vennergoor of Hessilink maybe, Old Horsey Face and Old Roy no!

]]> By: Big Mark http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166662 Big Mark Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:39:01 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166662 @ OranjeRules: Switch in RVN or Makaay for Babel and you've got a deal! @ OranjeRules:

Switch in RVN or Makaay for Babel and you’ve got a deal!

]]> By: finnster01 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166658 finnster01 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:17:44 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166658 Amen on the Dirk Kuyt bit. Sorry Tiju. Amen on the Dirk Kuyt bit. Sorry Tiju.

]]> By: OranjeRules http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html/comment-page-1#comment-166657 OranjeRules Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:06:09 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/johan-cruyff-ajax-set-marco-up-for-failure.html#comment-166657 A captain should lead by example and who sets a better example than Kuyt. If the entire WC-98 team worked as hard as Kuyt does every game they would have been champions! He may be an ugly troll, but Kuyt needs to be on the pitch! Screw van Bommel and VDV and Sneijder with regards to the Captain's armband, once they work has hard as DK then they can piss and moan! A captain should lead by example and who sets a better example than Kuyt. If the entire WC-98 team worked as hard as Kuyt does every game they would have been champions!

He may be an ugly troll, but Kuyt needs to be on the pitch! Screw van Bommel and VDV and Sneijder with regards to the Captain’s armband, once they work has hard as DK then they can piss and moan!

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