JC and the Apprentice Team Manager - by JK Rowling

Nice one Jan…thanks…did you write this by yourself??

dont think Advokaat will be next in line..my prediction: Ronald Koeman (who i really dont like btw), my favo would be Hiddink or Jol but dont think any of those two will manage us in the near future..maybe vanmarwijk?? would be great for my cause than ill know that vanBommel will be back (btw. he and Makaay played really well last saterday against Shalke)

grtz

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yes , very funny to hear..still think he will try with Oranje once more in the future..im sure hes very eager to prove everybody that 01-11-2001 was just very bad luck (altough we lost the qualification cause of the Portugal games where we were to arrogant…still not sure if vanGaal is a manager who can work with a group of players he sees only a few times a year as a group…like Adriaans he such a school teacher (i mean that in the most positive sence, haha)

btw: i have an intresting link for you, ill post it after this comment but tell you now so you can do your moderating duties (lol!!), maybe you already know this but alas..

grtz

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This is a site were you can watch programs if you missed them (only publieke omroep), interesting 4 you: Studio Voetbal (Jack van Gelder, Hugo Borst and each week a new guest (last week Aad de Mos) and plenty of documentaries etc.
Hope you like it

grtz

http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/index.php/selectie

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@Jan, ill go dutch for a moment, im sorry for the non dutchmen!

Als je op die site bent kun je boven in de balk aangeven welke programmas je wilt zien. Bijvoorbeeld, selecteer Nederland1, slecteer als dag zondag en als onderwerp sport en je krijgt een hele lijst met programmas (waaronder Studio Voetbal en docu’s etc.), ben ook aan het zoeken voor Voetbal Insite..laat het je wel weten als ik iets heb gevonden. Uitzending gemist is alleen voor de publieke omroep Ned1, Ned2 en Ned3….
hoop dat je er iets mee kan..

sorry for the dutch writing..

grtz

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Jan: very nice article summarizing perfectly the situation.
i’m agree with you,koeman would be a catastrophe and his team would play in a very defensive way… van gaal? i don’t like the person but his ajax did really well in the 90s (beside barca ajax is my other favourite team),but with barca and oranje he failed: the first had the best player of the world at its time and he couldn’t win any cl with them,the oranje 2000-2002 was also a group of talented and experienced players,but we all know the result… i have no idea if he would be good or bad,but probably better than mvb.
once in the future i would like to see rijkaard again as the coach,but not at the moment,because right now he’s at the place where he has to be.
and i think one day the great plaxer of the 90s will become coaches too. let’s see for ex the de boer brothers…

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sorry for some spelling mistakes: i wanted to write: greast players of the 90s

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My favourite coach for the Netherlands would be:
1)Hiddink; 2)Louis van Gaal;
3)Rijkaard; 4)Koeman. I don’t think Martin Jol has the guts to be our coach and I’ve heard him saying that England has a better team than us so if he doesn’t trust his own players he can’t be the one to lead us. I’m ashamed of how some of you ppl can be laughing at van Gaal when he has been the most aggressive coach I’ve seen in the last 10 years, he won the CL with ajax and was also successful at Barcelona where he won La Liga and La Copa del Rey, since van Gaal left Barcelona they couldn’t win anything at all until Rijkaard arrived 6 years later or so and also remember that Barca isn’t Milan or Madrid who have won many Champions, Barca had only won it once.

@MR; nobodys laughing when it comes to his coaching and his results, im sure youll read that everybody is full of respect when it comes to vanGaal…but im not so sure if he makes a great manager of a national team..i always tought him to be that kind of manager that needs a young group to work with wich he can form and work with on a daily basis…it IS funny to name 5 countries in a clasule in your contract..(as it is funny to watch his pressconfrences after a lost game with AZ!)..i even heared that after a few drinks hes known to tell some great jokes!

grtz

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Hello my friends…I am new at this page but I love the Dutch National Team as much as you do. For me it is simple, Marco van Basten has to be fired or resign himself because the team simply is not performing well at all and his team selection is crazy!
It seems Holland right now is not one of the best of Europe but that is totally wrong for me. If you make radical changes first firing the coach then I am sure the next coach will recall van Nistelrooy, van Bommel and Makaay, along with that he will offer Seedorf an important position in the squad and then you can have a very strong team again. Who can lead the team to a happy ending?
1- Hiddink: proven coach with Oranje and many national teams and clubs.
2- van Gaal: failed with Holland but can anyone remember the line ups vs Ireland and Portugal as locals?…van Gaal had more than 6 starters injured in those games. He has won everything at club level and the experienced players in the team have all been coached by van Gaal in the past and the younger guns will learn a lot with this great coach. He is too estrict sometimes, but look what AZ is doing right now!
3- Rijkaard: now he is an established and succesful coach
4- Koeman: I do not like his defensive attitude sometimes but at least he is a coach with Champions League experience, some logic and a lot more of character that San Marco
5- Fope de Haan: Knows most of the young players and won the Euro under 21´s. He can make a good mix between the experienced guys with the young players.

Holland has a lot of potential still guys but how can a team perform well if they do not have a coach that gives condidence to his playes and besides has fought with some strong players of the squad that retired of the team while he is on charge???For me we have some of the most promising players on the earth like van Persie who is gonna be a legend in some years. You will see. Imagine this team:

1- van der Sar
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2-Kromkamp 3-Boula 5-Emmanuelson

4- van Bommel
(Different position
for him but Rijkaard and Desailly played the last part of
the careers in this position and
they did it very cool, van Bommel has
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6- Afellay 8-Seedorf

7-Kuyt 11-Robben
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10-van Persie

9- van Nistelrooy

4-4-2

An explanation of the van Bommel positiong:(Different position for him but Rijkaard and Desailly played on that same position for their clubs and they did it very well. Van Bommel does not have the same technique as those guys but he still has good technique and can be a perfect conection between defence and midfield and when we attack ha can transform in to a holding midfielder while being attacked he will be a central defender that is gonna be tough to beat in the air. Afellay and Seedof will have offensive and defensive duties so when Seedorf attacks Afellay stays and viceversa while Robben and Kuyt will have mostly offensive duties on the flanks changing position constantly but following their full bakcs as well when they launch an attack. van Persie will play as shadow striker just like Bergkamp did with Kluivert and besides van Persie plays on that position for Arsenal. As lone striker is Ruud, perhaps after Euro 08 then you can give that position to Huntelaar but right now Ruud is 30 years old and you have to use him now because in 2 o 3 years ha can feel the age problem. Kuyt is a bet playing on the right but if he fails to live to the expectations then you can put there someone like Babel.
And with this line up you can have a good bench as well ready to take over if there are problems along the way. On the bench you will have Stekelenburg, Bouma, Gio, Mathijsen, Sneijder, van der Vaart, Zenden, Makaay, Hunterboy, de Zeeuw, etc…But the main thing in soccer is to have a structure in every zone of the field and have a style of play and formation that can match your players skills. The players should not transform their quailities to follow a formation (4-3-3) but the formation has to be planned according to your players characteristics.
Anyway, I have a lot of confidence and I know Holland still have and will have for many years to come a great team but with Marco van Basten and all his fool decisions the National Team is lost. Get rid of him and then the Dutch will rule again!

Hi there, can anyone tell me who are your favorites to replace van Basten when he is gone?. Hopefully before Euro 08, I do not want to watch a lost team play vs Portugal again because last time we lost per only one goal, but right the team has no spirit and no morale under van Basten and I can´t imagine what would happen next time around. Somebody tell him to quit!

Bring RUUUUUUD back and sack Marco….Marco, as a player you were a legend, but as a coach you need to learn a lot more. Go coach some soccer kids, that will be fun and you can do whatever foolish things you wanna do. But with our Orange it is an insult you wanna mess things up!

Thanks Jan for admitting my comments. I have to say that you are doing a terrific job gathering opinions around the world of the feeling and passion we all have for the Dutch National team and the dutch style of soccer. I would like to join this conversations in a very respectful way, I am from México and I follow Dutch soccer very very close since I was ten years old (now I am 25) and love everything about it. Holland right now has a very strong squad but bad management cost every organization a lot of damage and today the national team is learning that, but Ruud and Bommel already said no to this regime guided by the very inexperienced and arrogant San Marco. Holland will qualify easily to Euro 08 because they have very weak rivals and although Romania is the only decent competitor, Bulgaria is at avery low level so we have no rivals at all and we can qualufy in first or second spot very easy but I am sure we will continue playing in a very poor way and at the end Mr. Kesler will have no choice but to fire MVB when the qualification campaign is over because we need the important and experienced players in Euro 08 and some new tactics on the pitch and San Marco will not be able to call upon the services of Ruud van Nistelrooy and Mark van Bommel that for me are great fighters with their soccer skills already proven worldwide. We can win, we can be among the best but first we have to eliminate van Basten and send him to take some more coaching lessons from Cruyff but outside our loved Oranje team. Greetings to all!

I always liked Foppe de haan. What I understand though, is that he is “too nice a guy”. He would be a true players coach.

@Mario: said it before but ill say it again:

1. Hiddink
2. Jol
3. vanMarwijk
4. vanGaal (yes)
5. Rijkaard
6. Adriaans

I esp. like vanMarwijk cause i know that he would bring back my favo. Oranje player and his son - in - law VANBOMMEL; Jol is another favo of me,
id say vanGaal deserves another change altough im not sure if he (and Adriaans) are managers who can manage a national team, think they need to work with a group each day and not a few times a year..but alas, nothings gonna happen…Oranje will piss me off another year before we finally lose vanBasten after the EC…….well nothing we can do..
grzt

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btw: @Mario, like your vanBommel solution…read older comments on this blog and you will notice weve been having some nice discussions about that position: Sneijder (like vanHanegem wrote in the paper), vanBronckhorst etc.., there some possiblities but i think vanBasten finally agreed and noticed our problem when it comes to building from the back…interesting stuff

grtz

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