Huntelaar will stay at Ajax

Good for KJH. No need to rush the career.

Posted from  United States

there are rumours that boularouz is going to go back to germany to play for bayern munich for half the price chelsea payed! i fink that would be a good move. get him some regular footie again so he can try to get his confidence back!!

Posted from  United Kingdom

there are rumours that boularouz is going to go back to germany to play for bayern munich for half the price chelsea payed! i fink that would be a good move. get him some regular footie again so he can try to get his confidence back!!

Posted from  United Kingdom

I also read rumours that PSV wants to sign the Chelsea defender…

Posted from  Australia

Also heared about Boula and Bayern..Bayern is really spending big time..still think theres a little change that Robben will go there too..

smart choice form Huntelaar; he still has plenty of time

grtz

Posted from  Netherlands

Great news for Boula, I am really happy to hear that.
KJH could go abroad but I think it is good because Ajax will also benefit from that decision in the UCL.
Robben will make anywhere even at chelsea but he needs to stop getting injured. Mourinho has lots of confidence on him.

i hope boula will be the same as he was at hsv. but even with a good boula we have the crucial defense problem. there is no balance at all in oranje: with the return of ruud and clarence we have lots of attacking and midfield options, but the central defence… and this is not marco’s mistake – our players are not good enough,they are not able to build up,and the team doesn’t feel secure. just remember the time of stam and fdb or koeman and rijkaard and compare them to the matthijsen,boulah (or anybody – vlaar? bouma?) tandem… i really feel that marco sholud convert one of the defending midfielders (schaars? dezeuw? or the other guy from az who has also been injured for longtime) into central defender. or maybe heitinga.

Posted from  Hungary

See? Now Ferenc says same as I. Thanks. I agree. Holland ia not longer so good. We can not dominate like we used to do. Because we lack the real top players. Sneijder is best man in Holland competition but Valencia (number 3 or 4 in Spain) doesn’t want him.

Posted from  Australia

Ish: i didn’t say that we didn’t have top quality players. i said we didn’t have top quality defenders. plenty of attacking and midfield option but defending…

Posted from  Hungary

ishmael: all your comments are negative about Holland’s team. You are not a fan of dutch football and you don’t know anything about the new talents we have.
Huntelaar, Babel, Emanuelson, Persie, Robben, Vaart, Kromkamp, Boula, Afellay, etc, etc, etc. is the new generation and they have what it takes to compete at the highest level, just wait and you’ll see.

@ish: just wondering: you speak off ” WE are not so good anymore..WE cannot dominate….are you actually dutch or a dutch fan?? You have a very interesting way of showing, haha

@ferenc; dont really know if the biggest problem is actually in the centre of defence.. we have plenty of decent options (Bouma, Boula, Heitinga, Matijssen, Ooijer), the coming man Rayen Donk from az will be a great one, mark my words.. but what to do with the left and right back?? Gio?? never really confident.. deCler??.. will Melchiot play??… its always been the same..plenty of talent going forword but not so much the other way around…maybe thats way all dutch tems want to play 4-3-3, its a system wich revolves around attack and ball possession…its just cause we cant (or dont want) to defend…

ive seen the light! its all clear to me now…PR pay attention: we need to play 4-3-3, we cant play anything other cause were to crap in defence..and cause we always play 4-3-3 our defenders are getting worse and worse so we need to attack even more..its a circel of wich theres no way out..were doomed i tell you

btw: gonna have a look at the England-Brasil game now..think its a nice coincedence that Beckham and vanNistelrooy were both out and now in their national team..both friends from the Man.U. time as i have heared

grzt

Posted from  Netherlands

Goose..you are right on target. Defence has always been a bit of a question mark since FDB and Stam had moved out. I would go with Ferenc that the central defence gulf is more than anything else.
4-3-3 does give us the attacking option on the flanks, but the central defence is totally exposed, since the midfield somehow lacks the fluidity required out of 4-3-3 and a total football setup.

Also I am not quite sure that the lack of quality defenders is due to a prolonged emphasis on 4-3-3 alone. In the grand old days of mid 70s (my favorite era although I was not even born then:-)) defenders like Rijsbergen, Ruud Krol, Suurbier, Israel and of course the midfielder turned defender Arie Haan flourished in the out and out attacking set up. Even recently Koeman, FDB and Stam did not do that bad either.

A couple of reasons why the defence looks shaky are:
- We do not have a strong centre back who can defend physically as well as tactically. This sounds weird but I am referring to a Barry Hulshoff, a Wim Rijsbergen or a so called ‘textile tester’ (courtesy Mr. Sepp Blatter) by the name Jaap Stam. Boulah is just more physical than anything else and Ooijer/Mathijsen somehow do not hit the mark.
- We do not have someone who can rise from defence, mix with the midfield and whip up crosses for the frontline. IMO the last such person we had is FDB. Heijtinga might come close, but I am not so sure. This category, like Rijkaard, Arie Haan do the dual job of strengthening the defence as well as the midfield.

Ishmael; fully appreciate your angst that the present team is nowhere compared to the teams in 74, 88 and even 98-00. But don’t all teams go through such cycles? As a dedicated supporter you have every right to get mad at the Oraanje and/or San Marco, but a fan is someone who supports the team through thick and thin. The present Gen-X of Dutch players who won the youth WC with Foppe De Haan do have some good people (otherwise they would not have won the Cup). It just takes time, patience and real good guidance to convert them to match winners. I guess we can do a lot better than the holier-than-thou attitude saying “Didn’t I say so?”:-)

Posted from  United States

I always get to hear I am not good fan. But I am like to be this fan as I am. See, you all idolize all Dutch (Marco van Basten, V Persie, Bommel, etc) and then they do not so well and you start shouting that they have to go. That is tpyical mentality. Like Robben diving and vd Vaart always injured, that is all mirror of Dutch mentality. And yes I say “we” becoz I feel part of Dutch football. I had a Dutch boyfriend and he also a bit whiner… it’s ok. It’s no problem. We all have certain identity. You know the things people say about Germans? Swiss? Italians? Most of it is true. But please stop shouting at me becoz I am critical ok? Other wise I will go away and won’t return!

Posted from  Australia

For me it would be wine if you stay at the Portuguese blog, you are negative Ish

Posted from  Mexico

Mario, Freudian slip of the tongue eh ? It would be wine? I will not go to the Portuguese blog because they sleep. No action there. Like my bedroom . Don’t tell my boy friend ok? hahaha… But I am not fan of Portugal. I like this blog because active and funny. Please accept me for how I am, ok?

Posted from  Australia

ok, stop crying Ish., think we all appriciate any new ‘members’on this blog, just stay realistic and dont say silly things like ‘you people are like groupies’, if theres one thing i really like on this blog is that we all are very critical of Oranje, the manager and the players
and please: Robbens diving or vdVaarts injury has abso. nothing to do with a ‘ducht mentality’, interested to hear what you think is typical of the dutch mentality…

very sorry to hear about the lack of action (LOL)

grzt

Posted from  Netherlands

Ok, I tell you Goose… I like you because you accept me… I tell you, Dutch mentslity is typical. In WW2, Dutch defense of Holland was over in 1 day!! But then, Holland had strongest underground resistance! How is that? Holland was against Iraq war. But when US started war, Dutch politicians were quickly in Washington to ask for re-building contracts. Dutch are always talking, compaining. Even Johan Cruyf said, Dutch players always say: yes, but, but but… . Holland is strange people. Very tolerant, but never the balls to say Fukc You to Bush. And players know well how to play, but always not good enough for 1st place. Only in 1988 success but with off side goal Kieft, with lucky penalty kick in semis against Germany and lucky van Basten goal vs Russia. Yes, I know my history .

Posted from  Australia

well, well, little history class: let me enlighten you my friend (just this ones ill talk politics and football)…

we surrendered to the germans after 5 days, after the germans distroyed Rotterdam in a bombartment…Holland had hoped to stay neutral like they were at WOI so had not payed very much attention to their army…no match for the germans..
the underground (mostly communist) grew esp. after winter 42 when it was clear the germans would loose

here, the politics were not against the war in Iraq, it has supported it only not with soldiers (like we do in Afgah.)

you may have hit a nerve with the Cruijff comment..its very true that dutch society is a very ‘flat’one.. nobody feels less to the other and theirfore we have some problems with authority, you are right about that

your footballing examples are a laugh..lucky goal by vanBasten??? maybe the penaly in the semis was easy but the germans had one just the same..

exc. dont think you know your history that well

sorry for the little history lesson my friend..ill stick to football next time
gtrz

Posted from  Netherlands