Comments on: Hugo Borst: Oranje winning the WC? Fat chance… http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:38:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lucas http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173810 Lucas Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:30:35 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173810 ferenc you can add 2002 to that list, although we didn't make it we had an excellent team with lots of options. ferenc you can add 2002 to that list, although we didn’t make it we had an excellent team with lots of options.

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173809 ferenc Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:27:21 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173809 should have won should have won

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173808 ferenc Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:55:54 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173808 i keep saying that oranje should have one 4 times the world cup because in 1974,1978,190 and 1998 our team was the best in the world. the funniest thing would be if a much weaker side won the world cup next year. hopefully it will happen. unfortunately greatness doesn't always mean victory. i keep saying that oranje should have one 4 times the world cup because in 1974,1978,190 and 1998 our team was the best in the world. the funniest thing would be if a much weaker side won the world cup next year. hopefully it will happen. unfortunately greatness doesn’t always mean victory.

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173807 ferenc Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:53:03 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173807 the 1990 world cup was one of the biggest disappointment in my life. i expected gold and instead we were eliminated very early. apart from the 1974 team the gullit-rijkaard-van basten-ronald koeman oranje was the best ever. johan should have been the coach and i havew lots of respect for michels but he made one of the biggest mistakes of his life by backing beenhakker. i remember before the world cup in italy a pornfilm was made about how italy would win the world cup - even in this film oranje was their opponent in the final and some beautiful girls had affairs with gullit and co the night before the final (it was an integrant part of the italian strategy :D). it also means that oranje was really considered as top fav,lets say like spain now. (or even more.) the 1990 world cup was one of the biggest disappointment in my life. i expected gold and instead we were eliminated very early. apart from the 1974 team the gullit-rijkaard-van basten-ronald koeman oranje was the best ever. johan should have been the coach and i havew lots of respect for michels but he made one of the biggest mistakes of his life by backing beenhakker.
i remember before the world cup in italy a pornfilm was made about how italy would win the world cup – even in this film oranje was their opponent in the final and some beautiful girls had affairs with gullit and co the night before the final (it was an integrant part of the italian strategy :D ). it also means that oranje was really considered as top fav,lets say like spain now. (or even more.)

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173803 Jan Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:37:42 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173803 Agree Alex. Four wouldn't have been too silly. There's an article in this archive here somewhere on Oranje 1990. I think it wasn't the players' ego's so much, but the horrible handling of the situation by the KNVB. Agree Alex. Four wouldn’t have been too silly. There’s an article in this archive here somewhere on Oranje 1990. I think it wasn’t the players’ ego’s so much, but the horrible handling of the situation by the KNVB.

]]> By: Alex http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173802 Alex Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:06:19 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173802 If you look at the teams we had in the past, we should already have at least 2 world cups in our bag. '74, '78,'90, how about '98? If you look at the teams we had in the past, we should already have at least 2 world cups in our bag. ‘74, ‘78,’90, how about ‘98?

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173800 Mario Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:09:54 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173800 Carlos: Your answer says it all. Very cocky Oranje lost because they had no spirit and passion to win. Because that team was the best of that World Cup player by player. That team had to be a team for 1990 and 1994 but in 1994 Van Basten and Gullit didn´t not play and then the rest is history. Again: Holland´s biggest rival is Oranje!!!. Carlos:

Your answer says it all. Very cocky Oranje lost because they had no spirit and passion to win. Because that team was the best of that World Cup player by player. That team had to be a team for 1990 and 1994 but in 1994 Van Basten and Gullit didn´t not play and then the rest is history.

Again: Holland´s biggest rival is Oranje!!!.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173799 Carlos Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:43:28 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173799 Mario - no idea but we were such outrageous favourites it was embarrassing. Think Marco had just won the Ballon D'Or, Gullit and Rijkaard were close 2nd/3rd I think, however the nearest English guy was Gascoigne who received 3 votes (MVB 187 or something like that). England had no stars - they lost in the semifinal ! Tells you something about all the dumb bitching that goes on here. Was never into computer games or simulated football games but everything and everyone pointed toward Holland in 1990 2:1 favourites, Brazil 4:1. Mario – no idea but we were such outrageous favourites it was embarrassing. Think Marco had just won the Ballon D’Or, Gullit and Rijkaard were close 2nd/3rd I think, however the nearest English guy was Gascoigne who received 3 votes (MVB 187 or something like that). England had no stars – they lost in the semifinal ! Tells you something about all the dumb bitching that goes on here.
Was never into computer games or simulated football games but everything and everyone pointed toward Holland in 1990 2:1 favourites, Brazil 4:1.

]]> By: Mario http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173798 Mario Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:39:23 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173798 @Carlos: Is it true that in 1990 there was a computer simulation in which Holland appeared as World Champion in all of them?. @Carlos:

Is it true that in 1990 there was a computer simulation in which Holland appeared as World Champion in all of them?.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html/comment-page-2#comment-173797 Carlos Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:43:10 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/hugo-borst-oranje-winning-the-wc-fat-chance.html#comment-173797 In 1990 we were sooooo confident we already had postage stamps printed - World Champions - 4 of the top 5 players in the world, 6 out of 10. Milan trio Wouters and Koeman. Politics killed it. In 1990 we were sooooo confident we already had postage stamps printed – World Champions – 4 of the top 5 players in the world, 6 out of 10. Milan trio Wouters and Koeman. Politics killed it.

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