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Garage Sale per fax: 6 Dutch internationals for sale!

“There is simply no spot for them,” is Jorge Valdano’s message. The new Real Madrid general manager talks about the six Dutch players and three or so others. He didn’t name names, but it wasn’t needed. The fax newspaper AD saw – addressed to some Premier League clubs – was quite clear.

It wasn’t a surprising list however. The Royals put all the six Dutch players plus Gabriel Heinze, Saviola and Mahamadou Diarra (not Lass) on the list. The Malinese midfielder has been injured for a long time, like striker Ruud van Gol.

Most offers were aimed at Sneijder and Robben, but the amounts offered weren’t interesting for Valdano. Robben cost 36 mio euros two years back, while Sneijder joined for 27 million. Real Madrid doesn’t expect to lose on the two players, but do realized they both have demonstrated some physical vulnerabilities.

Wesley Sneijder might actually stay, since new coach Pellegrini has shared earlier to be a fan of the little midfield general.

“Some simply refuse to leave,” Valdano keeps talking. “But they don’t realize that there’s no place for them in the group of 25. It’s simple maths.”

With C Ronaldo and Kaka, Real Madrid has 30 players, but Real isn’t even done shopping yet.

Money isn’t the issue for Real Madrid, but Perez has said that he wants to get 100 million euros for the Dutch players. A Tottenham Hotspur delegation was in Madrid last Monday for discussions. Some rumors say the Spurs want Van Nistelrooy, others say it’s about Huntelaar, Robben and Heinze. Spurs was said to have offered 40 million for the three of them.

None of the Dutch players want to leave. They all think like Van der Vaart, they want to take their chances. Valdano: “That will be tough. For certain positions we have four players.”

And for none of the starting positions is a Dutch players the pick. Sneijder and Van der Vaart need to compete with new signing Kaka, while Real confirmed that Guti is allowed to stay. Raul is also a protected monument, so with Higuain, C Ronaldo and a new striker to be signed, there’s not a lot of room left.

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By dirk v.d.Berg | June 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
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Argentina has a rough last four games ahead of them, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and not so much Peru. It would be especially funny if Messi never got to a World Cup in his career, not counting 2006 because he barely played in that one.

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By Jan | June 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
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Hey Dustin, good to have you here :-) . Keep them comments coming (and I have sympathy for both Ajax and Feyenoord and I was born in Rotterdam!!)…

By Carlos | June 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
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Jan, do you know when tickets for Aust v Holland will be available ?
Real website disowns any faxes sent to Premier League clubs now!!

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By finnster01 | June 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
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@Dustin: You are right about Sir Alex coming up dry from 86-91. But he didn’t exactly come empty handed to United on the silverware front.

He had won the old UEFA Cup Winners Cup, the Scottish Prem with Aberdeen 3 times, the Scottish Cup 4 times, The Scottish League Cup and the UEFA Super Cup. Incidentally, he was the last time someone other than Celtic and Rangers won the Scottish Prem, which is well over 20 years ago.

There was a pretty good reason Man U hired him and the rest is indeed history…

By Dustin | June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
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@finnster01

Oh granted, I know he’d won things before. But the point was that they gave him 5 years to win something. How many clubs in the league do so these days?
Martin O Neill maybe but it’s the exception rather than the norm.

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By finnster01 | June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
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@Dustin: Scolari got what? 6 months :-)

By Jan | June 19th, 2009 at 5:09 am
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@Carlos: I will find out and post it or email you my friend :-)

By Dustin | June 19th, 2009 at 8:30 am
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@finnster01

You’re right. He only got 6 months and he didn’t have control over the transfers either. But that’s par for the course when you have a rich owner that wants to play Championship Manager.

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By Caleb | June 19th, 2009 at 9:36 am
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@Dustin – you’re right of course, rich owners with huge expectations and meddling hands in the pot never give coaches time to settle a club and build a team.

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By Miguel Rosado | June 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
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Van Gaal wants Bosingwa with him, he’s one of the best right backs in the world. Messi couldn’t do much against him. Bayern has very good players, Ribery might leave but I’m sure with the money they pay for him Bayern will buy 1 or 2 players so I’m excited to see how they do these next season.

By Joel Brown | June 19th, 2009 at 11:51 am
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Bayern should make a deal involving Sneidjer, Van Der Vaart and Robben. They do Ribery + Money for all 3. That would really change the team.

The only other clubs I can see wanting them. Is AC Milan due to the Kaka money buying one or two of them

And Man City.

I would move to Bayern tho. All 3 of them

The team would look like

Olic Gomez

Robben Van Der Vaart Sneidjer Pranjic

Lahm Lucio Demichiles Braahfield

Rensing (Need to buy a new GK)

Subs

Butt Toni Klose Baujhomann Ze Reberto Breno Kroos Muller etc

By Jan | June 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
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I don’t think Louis will get away with four Dutch players and a player from Heerenveen (although he’s not Dutch of course). Won’t go.

If fRibery goes, Vaart will come.

By Joel Brown | June 20th, 2009 at 5:04 am
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Getting 3 would be amazing tho

By Sol | June 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
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Update of the latest transfer rumors:

Huntelaar – Galatasaray/Lyon/Wolfsburg/Tottenham (and Juventus/Man.U. but those 2 are really only just rumors, not confirmed by the club)
VDV – Bayern/Inter/AC Milan
Sneijder – Bayern/Inter/AC Milan
Robben – AC milan/Inter/Tottenham(/Lyon, although very unlikely, Man.U. is very unlikely as well since it sounds like only a rumor “Sir Alex Ferguson is reported to believe that…”)
Van Nistelrooy – Galatasaray/Fulham/Tottenham (but he’ll probably stay cause it seems that most of these clubs have given up hope of reaching an agreement)
Drenthe – don’t care, cause he’s not good enough for Oranje anyway, I doubt he’ll ever be and when that time comes, Oranje’s glory days will be over, or at least temporary suspended until we can get some good players again
vPersie – Man.U./Inter (looks like the most likely candidate of all the Dutch to move to Man.U. to replace Ronaldo, but who knows, maybe Sir Alex will take a gamble on Robben as well and play them both together with Rooney, but than United will still need a new goalscorer , probably one that has already proven himself with 15-25 or so goals in a season, so that’s not Hunter, Robben OR vPersie)

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By Sol | June 21st, 2009 at 11:23 am
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And since they (ManU) have a new transfer policy of not signing anyone 26 years or older that leaves out vNistelrooy as well (would have been a nice gesture from ManU, I think he can still produce 20 goals in the EPL, but they probably don’t want to take the risk, allthough, if they can’t get Benzema this summer, why not RvN until the winter?).

I think ManU is also looking at one of Roma’s strikers (Vucinic) who scored 16 goals last season.

This just in, Roma making a move for Hunter:

http://goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/06/21/1338011/report-roma-plot-move-for-real-madrid-striker-klaas-jan

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By finnster01 | June 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
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Don’t rule out the Man U move for VanNistel quite yet. The new policy says they don’t want to sign anyone 26 years or older for a “significant” amount of money. It doesn’t say they are not going to sign anyone over 26.

Real has said you can get VanNistelroy for as little as 1.5 million pounds. The only issue for a club will be personal terms and pay his high wages, which is not a problem for Man Utd.

However, stubborn old Sir Alex is very unlikely to signup a player he chased out of the building previously.

By JF | June 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 am
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@Dustin

I literally agree with everything u are saying. It does not matter who the Oranje play for as long as they PLAY. It is better for the national team that way. I hope Drenthe and Babel get out of their respective clubs because they are in sharp decline. And for huntelaar, vdv, wesley, ruud, and robben they need to play and get confidence because if those 5 along with van persie are full of confidence going into the World Cup (assuming ruud comes back :) ) then watch out cause i think Holland has as much talent as the Spanish, or Brazilians, and we will be very dangerous. Hup Holland Hup

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By Jan | June 22nd, 2009 at 3:28 am
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@Sol, interesting comments but I don’t get the past-glory days remark. With the youth coming along (Afellay, Maduro, De Guzman, Wijnaldum, Biseswar, Daley Blind, Fer, Leerdam, Van der Wiel, etc) I think Oranje will stay on top for a while. Most top players we have now (Sneijder, Robben, Van Persie, De Jong, Schaars) still have a good four years in their engines…

By Carlos | June 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 am
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Jan – and then we have 3-4 boys from the U/17s who were not too bad.
Just heard our 2 youngsters at Chelsea have been offered to train with the pre season A selection and possibly tour the USA with them. God old Carlo Ancelotti has faith in them (of course Guus may have given it a prod !)

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By Jan | June 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 am
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Right-o, cool! I’m now gonna check for game tickets Charles…

By Jan | June 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 am
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Ticketek.com.au is where we need to buy tickets. There’s no info on the game yet, but I will follow this….

By Sol | June 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 am
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@Jan

Well, maybe I should watch them some more, but the last few games I saw the U21 (or was it U17?) in the Toulon (France) tournament I was really dissapointed by their play in all of the matches they played.

I particularly paid attention to Biseswar, well, all I can say is, Feyenoord’s position in the eredivisie is justified. If that’s our future…. :(

Considering Affelay, I don’t think he’s good enough for Oranje right now, nor do I think he will improve much more. If he goes to a top team like Real Madrid now (of course not Real) he will fail like Drenthe has failed. I might be wrong, cause he’s slightly better than Drenthe.

vdWiel still has to prove himself to me against tougher teams, right now I wouldn’t rate him on the same level as Heitinga yet, not that Heitinga has ever been one of Oranje’s top players (well maybe in 2006 or before).

Wijnaldum? I think I heard his name drop a couple of times during the Toulon tournament, wasn’t it everytime just before we lost the ball or a chance was wasted?

From that list the only one that seems interesting to me for Oranje is Maduro, I think I’ve seen him play some time ago, didn’t he play for Ajax, he played very good if that’s the same guy, in European matches as well. Just looked him up at ESPN, he’s 24, only 1 year younger than sneijder, why isn’t he playing for Oranje? His position taken by better players? Or are we talking vBommel spot again?

The other players I don’t know that well, but if they were at the Toulon tournament, they suck!

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By Sol | June 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
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With that goalkeeper leading the suckiness. :(

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By dirk v.d.Berg | June 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
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Fiorentina put in a big for Drenthe.

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By dirk v.d.Berg | June 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
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bid*

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