Dutch Masters

No mention of rijkaard winning the champions league? :’(

Posted from  Netherlands

I don’t know why either… but Australia is very grateful.

Posted from  Australia

Is Frank Rijkaard currently the most succesful coach in Europe? His two Liga’s and this year’s Euro Cup means that there aren’t any English or other Spanish contenders. Maybe an Italian manager? Probably not over the past three seasons. Over five, Jose Mourinho may be on top. Anyway, good to see him up there.

Martin Jol has a serious challenge in turning THFC into a Euro Cup team. If he can do that, many other things become possible.

MvB could do well this summer.

I like the way that whoever appoints Oranje’s coach (KNVB?) are prepared to use the appointment to fast-track their stars.

Posted from  United Kingdom

This Oranje coach was pushed forward by Johan Cruyff when Dick Advo failed in Portugal. The nation was furious, they literally wanted to stone him… Van Hanegem - assistant coach for Advocaat - later said he wanted to knock Advocaat out after that Robben change, and wished he did… :-).

And don’t forget Co Adiaanse. In his first season at Porto they just missed the second groupphase in the CL but they did become champs of Portugal with attacking (!!!) football. He was the best coach for Ajax in the last 10 years and hopefully will one day coach Holland. Rijkaard obviously is very good too. EK2000 was great, if only we could score from the spot. Hiddink is over-estimated as a coach. Great shrink, though. But hey, you saw the WC2002 and the way Koreo won their matches… Nothing to do with Guus, everything with the refs…

Posted from  Australia

Don’t leave out Foppe de Haan guys. He’s turned Dutch Youth soccer around after doing the same at Heerenveen..

And now he’s got the U21s in the Euro Cup Final!

Both Martin Jol and Foppe de Haan will take the Dutch helm one of these days..

It’s been a hell of a year for Dutch football coaches.

It certainly has… Jol was always a top coach, he worked at RKC, a relatively poor club, and made them a contender, season after season. Feyenoord wanted him, some years ago, and everyone thought that would be great… Until the chairman of Feyenoord said in an interview that he didn’t like Jol because he was too fat!!!! So he picked Gullit… Well, that was a success! Some U21 players have complained recently about Foppe, they feel there’s a huge generation gap

Posted from  Australia

You know what i think, Till now it is Marco V Basten that is the best dutch coach at the moment, and one with balls. After introducing a whole new generation of players, and actually forming a team that enjoy playing with eachother, and type of team atmosphere, and winning as a team, not as an individual, today V Basten stands as my favourite dutch coach. and yes, Hiddink is way over estimated

Posted from  Oman

Think Fabio Cappello is easily the best club manager in Europe.

There seems to be an AC Milan connection with great coaches, Capello, Rijkaard, van Basten and Ancelotti

Nevertheless Dutch coaching is innovative and has been for a long time. Hiddink is certainly the most acclaimed Dutch coach in the world cup and he will do a good job for Australia.

Posted from  United States

I just read an interesting article in the authorative Dutch magazine Elsevier on Van Basten… Not very positive I might add. And by a well connected and respected (Belgian!!) journo. I’ll try to translate it and I’ll send it to Mike, ok?

Posted from  Australia

By the way… the player Marco van Basten NEVER won a world champion match… That’s a fact, although I never realized it until I read that article and thought…hang on… that’s true. A sorry fact for such a fab player…

Posted from  Australia

You might consider Hiddink over estimated but he certainly knows how to get the best out of players and turn this into results.

What he did with Sth Korea (take away the ref decisions) was just astonishing. He has done the same in my country. Since his appointment, football has gained an audience we never thought it would achieve. And this is due to us making this WC. In reality, we have Hiddink to thank. We were in all sort of trouble after the Confed Cup and we thought we all would be watching another WC without supporting the Socceroos. Enter Hiddink.

I think results speak a huge volume of whether a coach is successful or not. I think Hiddink’s results speak for themselves.

Posted from  United States

Sure, sure Hiddink is a good coach because he is a great psychologist (??), he is a good man manager and he oozes cool… He is the John Travolta of Football. And he has shown how important that is. He never gave us any innovative new football concepts, though… But I agree: the Hiddink effect is phenomenal…

Posted from  Australia

Hiddink is a great coach, dont get me wrong, i love his style. But when people speak of Hiddink, they sometimes think too much of him. For me ,now it would be a race against Marco or Hiddink. I know Van Basten is a young coach, but he has got potential in the Job. Hiddink never had achieved something like that at such a young age. But anyways, it can be debateble after the Aussie-Dutchie game aight guys? Cheers

Posted from  Oman

guess you cant really compare Hiddink and VBasten. Marco was never a club coach so i think that as a trainer/coach Hidink has a lot more baggage (and titles), guess Hiddink is a true CEO, a real manager, Marco ofcourse has his footballing talent & views his footballing history and therefor instant respect from the players wich is very difficult to get in dutch football (and society), but we saw the same with Rijkaard who f*cked up at Sparta after euro 2000, but now after a few more years is a well respected coach and i think he’s a lot like vBasten. In a couple of years im sure Marco will be a top trainer!

My all time favourite dutch trainerlist (not that anybody asked..):
1. Rinus Michels
2. Wiel Korver
3. Louis van Gaal (please no mention of 01-11- 2001)
4. Guus Hiddink

List of current trainers
1. Louis van Gaal
2. Guus Hiddink
3. Martin Jol
4. Frank Rijkaard

Posted from  Netherlands