Comments on: CL: Inter – Barca and AZ – Olympiakos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:16:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sol http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169857 Sol Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:03:51 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169857 Zlatan fails too much when the pressure is on (big game). That disqualifies him from being ALONGSIDE fernando torres,david vila, drogba or fabiano since these strikers have won the big games for their teams and are more consistent. He's better than Huntelaar indeed, at least for now (but just wait and see if Hunter gets his form back at Milan and get some 90-minutes games in). Grafite I don't know that well. The advantage in having a striker like Zlatan is that you can force a goal without needing a good creative team, but if you have a good creative team (like Barcelona) you'd want quantity, not quality, consistency not flashes of brilliance, effectiveness and productivity in goals not beautifully artisticly barely missed shots at goal and actions that lead to something that looks good but ultimately fails to convert to a goal. So sort of what Lucas also said. Zlatan fails too much when the pressure is on (big game). That disqualifies him from being ALONGSIDE fernando torres,david vila, drogba or fabiano since these strikers have won the big games for their teams and are more consistent.

He’s better than Huntelaar indeed, at least for now (but just wait and see if Hunter gets his form back at Milan and get some 90-minutes games in). Grafite I don’t know that well.

The advantage in having a striker like Zlatan is that you can force a goal without needing a good creative team, but if you have a good creative team (like Barcelona) you’d want quantity, not quality, consistency not flashes of brilliance, effectiveness and productivity in goals not beautifully artisticly barely missed shots at goal and actions that lead to something that looks good but ultimately fails to convert to a goal. So sort of what Lucas also said.

]]> By: Lucas http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169852 Lucas Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:39:07 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169852 I don't think huntaar is overestimated and i think that if he gets the right opportunities with Holland (i.e. stop starting Kuyt ahead of him) he will break patrick kluivert's record of 79 games 40 goals. I don’t think huntaar is overestimated and i think that if he gets the right opportunities with Holland (i.e. stop starting Kuyt ahead of him) he will break patrick kluivert’s record of 79 games 40 goals.

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169848 ferenc Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:17:59 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169848 i'm not a zlaran fan at all,but he's one of the best strikers of the world alongside with eto'o,fernando torres,david vila and drogba. far better than fabiano,grafite or huntelaar. unfortunately,we simply overestimate huntelaar. i’m not a zlaran fan at all,but he’s one of the best strikers of the world alongside with eto’o,fernando torres,david vila and drogba. far better than fabiano,grafite or huntelaar. unfortunately,we simply overestimate huntelaar.

]]> By: Lucas http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169842 Lucas Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:00:56 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169842 Sol i have to agree with you about zlatan, once again another pathetic performance against "big" oppostion in the champs league. If like you say a dcent striker such as fabiano, huntelaar, grafite, van persie, rooney, higuain etc had one of his chance (or even half chances barca would have had the win they deserved). Zlatan kept trying these fancy tricks and back heels! Soemtimes the most beautiful and effective football is simple football and he fails to understand that concept as a striker. Thats what made Alan Shearer so great, let the others do the fancy build up and i'll just whack it and score meantallity. Barca create a lot of chances but i feel if say (without meaning to be biast) thata huntelaar was at barca he would be the european golden boot winner at the end of the season. Zlatan will score goals, but he's only interested in the "perfect" goal, whilst strikers like huntelaar and fabaino are more versatile and score all types of goals! Sol i have to agree with you about zlatan, once again another pathetic performance against “big” oppostion in the champs league. If like you say a dcent striker such as fabiano, huntelaar, grafite, van persie, rooney, higuain etc had one of his chance (or even half chances barca would have had the win they deserved).

Zlatan kept trying these fancy tricks and back heels! Soemtimes the most beautiful and effective football is simple football and he fails to understand that concept as a striker. Thats what made Alan Shearer so great, let the others do the fancy build up and i’ll just whack it and score meantallity.

Barca create a lot of chances but i feel if say (without meaning to be biast) thata huntelaar was at barca he would be the european golden boot winner at the end of the season. Zlatan will score goals, but he’s only interested in the “perfect” goal, whilst strikers like huntelaar and fabaino are more versatile and score all types of goals!

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169838 Carlos Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:26:57 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169838 Another piece of interest against Schwables or dive or actors. In cricket there's a n xray/heat seeker type film they use to see where the "hotspot" is and you can see whether the ball actually nicks the bat or the pad because the heat show up through friction. Surely this can also beused for all those penalty divers. I saw some amazing miss dives lately where penalties were given. UEFA can use this technology as well to punish divers. Another piece of interest against Schwables or dive or actors. In cricket there’s a n xray/heat seeker type film they use to see where the “hotspot” is and you can see whether the ball actually nicks the bat or the pad because the heat show up through friction. Surely this can also beused for all those penalty divers. I saw some amazing miss dives lately where penalties were given. UEFA can use this technology as well to punish divers.

]]> By: Tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169837 Tiju Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:02:41 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169837 when the seniors enterd into the team..De haan got derailed from his path..look at the result in olympics... when the seniors enterd into the team..De haan got derailed from his path..look at the result in olympics…

]]> By: Tiju http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169836 Tiju Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:01:31 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169836 @Sol most of ur analysis is excellent and very practical...i agree that these formentioned oldies will make us piss in upcoming worldcup.i dont have faith in our seniors,they will never achive gold with orange and they will not allow others to achive the same..i had faith in gio till 2004 may be till 2005 i had faih in him.After that he also became a looser.yopu all my love over kuyt so the equation goes like this.for me at present kuyt>Vanbommel>gio>Oiger>Zeadorf @Sol most of ur analysis is excellent and very practical…i agree that these formentioned oldies will make us piss in upcoming worldcup.i dont have faith in our seniors,they will never achive gold with orange and they will not allow others to achive the same..i had faith in gio till 2004 may be till 2005 i had faih in him.After that he also became a looser.yopu all my love over kuyt so the equation goes like this.for me at present kuyt>Vanbommel>gio>Oiger>Zeadorf

]]> By: Sol http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169834 Sol Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:34:30 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169834 In terms of the age argument... van Bommel: 32 Seedorf: 33 vBronckh.: 34 Ooijer: 35 In terms of the age argument…

van Bommel: 32
Seedorf: 33
vBronckh.: 34
Ooijer: 35

]]> By: Sol http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169833 Sol Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:20:36 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169833 Oh, another thing I noticed, not really something that is news, but Sneijder seriously lacks aerial strength. Normally he makes up for that with his other qualities but I noticed that in this game it mattered a lot. Lots of situations where Inter just couldn't keep possession because the ball came near Sneijder in a high arc (often when they were trying to clear from defensive situations). I remember that mostly from the second half. I don't think Sneijder won even 1 air duel. Oh, another thing I noticed, not really something that is news, but Sneijder seriously lacks aerial strength. Normally he makes up for that with his other qualities but I noticed that in this game it mattered a lot. Lots of situations where Inter just couldn’t keep possession because the ball came near Sneijder in a high arc (often when they were trying to clear from defensive situations). I remember that mostly from the second half.

I don’t think Sneijder won even 1 air duel.

]]> By: Carlos http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html/comment-page-1#comment-169830 Carlos Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:22:39 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/cl-inter-barca-and-az-olympiakos.html#comment-169830 Seedorf was once asked to play DM but he made a mess of it. The stories went around the Oranje Camp - Biggest Ball Loser - Clarence - Biggest Ball winner - Edgar. Am not a big fan and never have been of Clarence, but always loved Edgar - probably as persons/character it should be reversed but then neither of them have sms'd me for a cup of tea so I can't judge. Seedorf was once asked to play DM but he made a mess of it. The stories went around the Oranje Camp – Biggest Ball Loser – Clarence – Biggest Ball winner – Edgar. Am not a big fan and never have been of Clarence, but always loved Edgar – probably as persons/character it should be reversed but then neither of them have sms’d me for a cup of tea so I can’t judge.

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