Comments on: Brits compare Van Persie with Rembrandt http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html World Cup 2010 - South Africa, Oranje, Nederlands Elftal, Eredivisie, Marco van Basten, Dutch football, The Netherlands Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:30:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michel-Olivier http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159221 Michel-Olivier Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:40:12 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159221 @ goose i understand, thanks. @ goose
i understand, thanks.

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159214 goose Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:15:36 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159214 @M-O; yes, though the moroccans are the exception, they dont get along with anybody the funny thing is that these 2nd generation, all of whom are born in Holland are more surinam, turkish etc. than their parents for example; if you hear a guy like Drenthe speak dutch you wont believe that its his first language, he speaks like he has lived the first 20 years of his life in Surinam...but i saw an interview with his mother on tv a few days ago and she speaks the same dutch as i do.. thats what surprised a lot of people during the flag-waving-incident at the U21 EC; we in Holland all thought theyd feel dutch and only saw them as dutch but all in all; its getting just a little more tense between the dutch and our immigrants, lots of shit has happened.....esp. with the muslims @M-O; yes, though the moroccans are the exception, they dont get along with anybody
the funny thing is that these 2nd generation, all of whom are born in Holland are more surinam, turkish etc. than their parents
for example; if you hear a guy like Drenthe speak dutch you wont believe that its his first language, he speaks like he has lived the first 20 years of his life in Surinam…but i saw an interview with his mother on tv a few days ago and she speaks the same dutch as i do..

thats what surprised a lot of people during the flag-waving-incident at the U21 EC; we in Holland all thought theyd feel dutch and only saw them as dutch

but all in all; its getting just a little more tense between the dutch and our immigrants, lots of shit has happened…..esp. with the muslims

]]> By: Michel-Olivier http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159203 Michel-Olivier Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:59:05 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159203 @ goose do native dutch, surinamese, dutch antillean, and indo get along? @ goose
do native dutch, surinamese, dutch antillean, and indo get along?

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159194 goose Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:36:49 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159194 @ferenc; good to hear from you, thought you may have been arrested by the Hungarian Football Association for beeing such an Oranje fan..haha i already have given up on Drenthe, i even dislike him so much that i would be happy if he doenst make it and will never see him in Oranje at all...what a wanker... btw; little riot going on in Holland cause of all the immigrant/ex-colonial boys in the U21 team who NEVER sing the national anthem; people see it as a sign of disrespect btw2; we played 1-1 v Norway (ip ban finnster) @ferenc; good to hear from you, thought you may have been arrested by the Hungarian Football Association for beeing such an Oranje fan..haha

i already have given up on Drenthe, i even dislike him so much that i would be happy if he doenst make it and will never see him in Oranje at all…what a wanker…

btw; little riot going on in Holland cause of all the immigrant/ex-colonial boys in the U21 team who NEVER sing the national anthem; people see it as a sign of disrespect

btw2; we played 1-1 v Norway (ip ban finnster)

]]> By: ferenc http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159192 ferenc Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:58:06 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159192 @goose: i'm back but i had a lot of work in the last couple of months (12-14 hours each day,editing a 750-pages-book about artificial intelligence,so i didn't have too much time for football) i will be fully back at the end of this month after my holiday in quebec. about van persie: i have always thought that he would become the new denis bergkamp. he's got the talent for it. but he's injured all the time. and this is a big problem. i guess he has matured a lot mentally but physically there might be some serious problemwith him. my opinion is that he should be a kind of super sub but if i were van marwijk i wouldn't base any plan on robin and he certainly wouldn't be tke key player. he's a kind of bonus like robben. for me oranje is more about sneijder,van der vaart,huntelaar etc. abd good news that our defence might be pretty well with boulah,heitinga and all these youngsters: marcelis,emanuelson,donk. and we definitely should forget drenthe. he's a waste of time. @goose: i’m back but i had a lot of work in the last couple of months (12-14 hours each day,editing a 750-pages-book about artificial intelligence,so i didn’t have too much time for football) i will be fully back at the end of this month after my holiday in quebec.

about van persie: i have always thought that he would become the new denis bergkamp. he’s got the talent for it. but he’s injured all the time. and this is a big problem. i guess he has matured a lot mentally but physically there might be some serious problemwith him. my opinion is that he should be a kind of super sub but if i were van marwijk i wouldn’t base any plan on robin and he certainly wouldn’t be tke key player. he’s a kind of bonus like robben. for me oranje is more about sneijder,van der vaart,huntelaar etc. abd good news that our defence might be pretty well with boulah,heitinga and all these youngsters: marcelis,emanuelson,donk. and we definitely should forget drenthe. he’s a waste of time.

]]> By: Miguel Rosado http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159183 Miguel Rosado Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:57:22 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159183 -----------Stekelenburg------------ Heitinga-----Marcellis------Mathijsen- --------Bommel--------Nigel---------- ---Afellay-------Vaart-----Robben---- --------Persie---Huntelaar-------- ———–Stekelenburg————

Heitinga—–Marcellis——Mathijsen-

——–Bommel——–Nigel———-

—Afellay——-Vaart—–Robben—-

——–Persie—Huntelaar——–

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159171 Jan Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:36:25 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159171 Good point Goose, I hand this one to you :-) Good point Goose, I hand this one to you :-)

]]> By: goose http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159169 goose Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:25:21 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159169 @dirk; Amrabat is a great talent but he lacks mental maturity... he wont play for Oranje this year, mark my words Amrabat still thinks hes playing with his mates at his parents garden @Jan; if you are as good as Cruijff you can be an asshole BUT Johan never forgot the big picture.... vPersie is just one of our good players and still doenst seem to realize that the balance in the team is also his responsibility... Sneijder was the nr1 man, not vPersie @Frank; i seem to remember him beeing out for months pre EC .. so he missed al the preps @dirk; Amrabat is a great talent but he lacks mental maturity… he wont play for Oranje this year, mark my words
Amrabat still thinks hes playing with his mates at his parents garden

@Jan; if you are as good as Cruijff you can be an asshole BUT Johan never forgot the big picture…. vPersie is just one of our good players and still doenst seem to realize that the balance in the team is also his responsibility… Sneijder was the nr1 man, not vPersie

@Frank; i seem to remember him beeing out for months pre EC .. so he missed al the preps

]]> By: Jan http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159163 Jan Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:04:33 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159163 You have got to be kidding, Mr Finn!! Have you met Warren Buffet? Cool.... I'm a big fan!! Jeez... You have got to be kidding, Mr Finn!!

Have you met Warren Buffet? Cool…. I’m a big fan!!

Jeez…

]]> By: finnster01 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html/comment-page-1#comment-159158 finnster01 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:24:56 +0000 http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/brits-compare-van-persie-with-rembrandt.html#comment-159158 Without prolonging the VanP debate, as a man making a living on Wall Street, I once asked one of the premier investors on the Street for advice on my portfolio. I happened to run across him in the business but also on a long flight to the UK. His name is Warren Buffet. I asked him what he thought about my portfolio and give me some tips. He just looked at me and said "Finn, I am not going to give you any advice on any specific stock, but I will tell you one thing and that is: There is never a shame in taking a profit. You stick to that, you will be all right" He is/was very right. I have been fairly successful by sticking to that advice but I have also lost my shirt by riding the market beeing greedy and thinking I know better. So the lesson here and the moral of this story is that you can only push the envelope so far before it may implode against you. I think Mr VanP is at that edge. Without prolonging the VanP debate, as a man making a living on Wall Street, I once asked one of the premier investors on the Street for advice on my portfolio. I happened to run across him in the business but also on a long flight to the UK. His name is Warren Buffet.

I asked him what he thought about my portfolio and give me some tips. He just looked at me and said “Finn, I am not going to give you any advice on any specific stock, but I will tell you one thing and that is: There is never a shame in taking a profit. You stick to that, you will be all right”

He is/was very right. I have been fairly successful by sticking to that advice but I have also lost my shirt by riding the market beeing greedy and thinking I know better. So the lesson here and the moral of this story is that you can only push the envelope so far before it may implode against you. I think Mr VanP is at that edge.

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