Australia wants Advocaat suspended

November 30th, 2007 | By: Jan | 14 Comments »

Months ago, the Australian football federation and Dick Advocaat signed the contract. Dickie would become the Ozzie team manager for the WC2010 campaign.

Now Zenit St Petersburg has offered him a new contract - yep, more money - Dick wants to stay in Russia. Understandable, but wrong. So, he told Australia to stuff it, but Australia doesn’t want to leave it at that. “We put a lot of effort in signing him, we made a deal. And if your team manager decides not to come right when the qualiifications start you feel screwed.”

For player who sign two or more contracts, the FIFA has a suspension ruling. Australia has asked the FIFA to do the same with coach Advocaat.

In my view, a penalty in Euros will probably hurt Dickie more….



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Username By Finnster01 | November 30th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
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According to labour law, that will be very difficult for Australia to defend. If he gets suspended (which I don’t think will happen), expect a nice lawsuit

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Username By Samuel Knight (Oudegeest) | November 30th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
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Irony moment here.

Advocaat’s very name is lawyer, and now he’s breaking a contract. Not the doing the legal thing.

Australia is lucky, he never struck me as all that good a coach. Rangers, Oranje, nothing much.

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Username By Jan | November 30th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
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Agreed!

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Username By Mario Rosado (Dutch admirer) | November 30th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
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I don“t care what happens with him but the only thing I care is that he never returns to manage Holland ever again!hahaha.

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Username By Bob | November 30th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
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It has become a matter of ridicule in professional sports that, with respect to personal service contracts, those who sign them think they can be broken or ignored at will. Here in the US, contracts are only driven by money when it comes to professional athletes, with owners taking a spineless attitude toward enforcement. As an attorney, I have objected to professional coaches and athletes believing that they can do whatever they want to do when it comes to honoring (note the word “honor”)agreements. If ownership violates the agreement, then the lawsuits fly. If the coach or player violates the agreement, well, that’s OK because, heaven forbid, the culture and legal system should require them to “honor” their obligations.

Therefore, Advocaat simply becomes another professional coach/player that I will not respect, because he is not honoring his responsibilities. As Samuel Knight suggests, I never believed that Advocaat was a top level coach, even though no one appeared to think more of Advocaat than himself. He hitched his star to Rinus Michels, and believed he was equal to this Dutch legend. Such a conclusion was not true.

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Username By Jan | December 1st, 2007 at 4:37 am
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These words reflect what most in Holland think of Dickie. A mercenary.
Selling himself to the highest bidder (leaving PSV mid-season for more money at Rangers, etc) and always underpeforming with his teams while defending himself ferociously even when not even attacked…

I vividly remember an interview with Jack van Gelder after a lost Oranje match:

Jack: Dick, it seemed the counter attack of [opponent's name] proved to be lethal for Oranje.

Dick: And I warned the players before the game, but they still stepped into the trap. I did what I could. It wasn’t my fault. So, why are you putting this to me like this?

Jack: I wasn’t trying to blame you, I just wanted to analyse where it went wrong….

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Username By Finnster01 | December 1st, 2007 at 9:23 am
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This guy didn’t do well at Rangers either. Finishing second to Celtic every year is not hard in that league. The fans hated him.

In Zenith he was actually going to get fired, which is probably when he signed the papers with Australia as they were slightly above mid-table in Russia, which is unacceptable for that team. They have some very rich owners and deep pockets (not Chelski type money, but still very significant amounts). Anyway, they had a good run at the end of the season and ended up just winning the Russian league (came down to last game).

Dick also managed to piss off several of the foreigners in the team, which all have expressed a desire to leave the team during the off-season.

All in all, although he has achieved a few results here and there, he has hardly the chracteristics of a coach building a solid club for the fans and the future. I would be nervous if I was a fan no matter which club he is managing

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Username By Tjeerd | December 1st, 2007 at 10:56 am
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This is sad for the socceroos. A lot of non- Italian Canadians admire the Australian soccer program. They getting stiffed. I do not blame them for filing a grievance with FIFA. As for European coaches leaving team midway through a season, THAT is something you do not see in North America. Yes coaches can break contracts with teams permission at seasons end if it perceived as a job promotion (ie. assistant coach offered a head coaching job).Teams allow the coach permission to seek a promotion. I have never seen a coach abandoned a team midway through a season. The only occasion you would see a remotely similar situation is when a NCAA football coach is approached during bowl season on another job. It becomes awkward for the team to play a bowl game for a coach you know is leaving. Take LSU (Louisiana State U.)head coach Les Miles, he wants to coach his alma mater but he has LSU to deal with first with the SEC championship game and then a potential (BCS)Bowl Championship Series game.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/11/miles_on_michigan_talks_will_h.html

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Username By goose | December 2nd, 2007 at 7:10 am
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^*&&&*(^(;

qualification euro08:

ITALY
FRANCE
ROUMANIA
HOLLAND

we have ourselfs another poule of death!!

bye, bye Oranje!!!

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Username By ferenc | December 2nd, 2007 at 7:15 am
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scandal

the very bad austria and switzerland are in lightweight groups. this draw was the death of sport. don’t forget that blatter is from switzerland. i’m really-really upset.

@goose: first reactions in the netherlands? marco’s opinion?

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Username By Kyle | December 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 am
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Hey Hey Hey

BYE BYE

Sigh, I don’t see us getting out of this, but in good news Marco will not be the coach much longer.

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Username By goose | December 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 am
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first reaction from vanBasten , and i quot;

” this is heavy” (he actually used the english word heavy to accomendate you guys!)

” Italy is a real football country that always does well on tournements ”

“France has the same thing as Italy”

” but he also had a hard group in qualifications”

” we kunnen onze borst natmaken ! (Jan!! help) something like “we should be prepared for a tough ride”

these are all quotes by Marco

gtrz

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Username By goose | December 2nd, 2007 at 8:18 am
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but WE also had a hard group in qualifications, sorry

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Username By ek2008 | December 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pm
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we’re gonna win!

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