Comments on: Angry van Basten doesn’t blame himself

By: ferenc

ferenc — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:29:00 +0000

@sphinx: exactly – at the beginning i said:let’s see him,new coach with new ideas – he had results but not good games. but a wc is not the same as the eliminatories – teams need experienced players (like france,italy and even portugal). he had the possibility,and didn’t choose the above-mentionned guys. and he failed – because we had 20 good minutes against a very weak serbia,20 good minutes and a lots of luck against ivory coast,against argentina it didn’t count at all,but against portugal it was carastrophic because of his tactics. we can say that with marco we lost only 2 games,but the last one counted the most. friendly games doesn’t count at all.
after the wc i koped he would rethink his ideas and trie to be more human more intelligent. and he did the opposite. results don’t prove he’s right.

By: sphinx

sphinx — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:52:16 +0000

ferenc! I agree with you to say Basten a bad manager.I don’t want to blame him for his way of team selection.As a manager he can architect a team at his way.but he can’t be such stubborn when the perfromance and results prove wrong.Is that rational to expact mid-field domainancy while he wants to f**k off Seedorf, Davids and Bommel for Lanzaart, Schaars and Janssen? Is VoH replacement for Ruud while Hunter is out of form? Is pressing game recommandable when you only have inexperience and inferior players?
Simply i see MVB out of logic.

By: Fares

Fares — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:44:14 +0000

Guys, think like a coach once …

If you don’t choose Makaay once, do you think he will come back and play one game cuase the other 2 ahead of him are out ..no

After the fight with Davids, do you think they will come back togather ..no way

So better find a replacement against weaker teams so you will have no surprises when playing big teams.

couple of weeks ago Holland killed a weakened Irealand ..but note that this weakend Irealand is better than Lux’g.

I agree that some names don’t desereve to be in the team … but u have to be pateint ..the best is yet to come !!!

I am confident that Holland will put few behind the Bel’russians.

With Khalid and Gio there ..the back line is better … When we have Wesly and Rafa back, it will look better. And Robben ! Van Bommel is out of the game form. He sucks from time to time. Thats why Frank Rijkard sold his home boy … let him prove himself in BM and MVB will welcome him back.

If I am a coach, I will select the best, I will never deselect one becuase he is good. Its also a psycalogial thingy to sit out the best players :

1- to get them work harder
2- to prove you have a word
3- to give the other the chance and make them work hard

— though I am with adding an expereined player for the hell of it. Like Seedorf or Bommel in this game .. strikers we are fine with the replacement. Our weak point is the mid.

By: Simon

Simon — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:34:52 +0000

Coward? Lol. Yeah, thats one way of seeing it..

By: ferenc

ferenc — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:32:14 +0000

makaay was almost always substitute playin on the right-wing,etc – he had no chance to prove his talent in the oranje. don’t tell me that landzaat is better than clarence or van bommel. he’s also 30. they don’t suck, van basten’s favourits suck and his ideas (has he any?) don’t work at all.
i didn’t say that huntelaar wasn’t good, he’s very talented but at the moment he’s out of form, and in this case ruud or makaay could replace him. don’t tell me that vennegor is the solution (we saw him and his “talent” against portugal), or even kuijt (he didn’t nothing against portugal – a forward should score first of all).
bad performances,bad selection,oranje looses his style – tell me why marco has so right?
for the facts: with seedorf,davids,etc: wc98, euro 2000, euro 2004 – semi finals
with marco’s beloved landzaat,vennegor,janssen,etc we were eliminated in the second tour of the wc,and probably will qualify for the ec but won’t survive the second tour. i don’t want to see a mediocre oranje,i want a brilliant,dominant,intelligent oranje. with marco it’s impossible – he proved it,because for him he and his image is more important than the team. bad and coward manager.

By: Simon

Simon — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:29:42 +0000

van Basten is right about not select Seedorf, van Nistelrooy, Makaay, van Bommel and Davids… they are too lazy for a game like this. I dont see why everyone scream so hard after these guys… I mean.. they suck. They have shown it plenty of times; they suck. Sure, van Nistelrooy is a good attacker, Seedorf a good midfielder and Davids as well, but Huntelaar are as good as van Nistelrooy and Seedorf was always lazy in Oranje. Davids sure is a good player and perhaps he should get more calls, but he is a very bad player when it comes down to morale etc… dont even get me started about Makaay, he got the chance so many times without scoring that it is no doubt most trainers would have left him outside the team.

By: ferenc

ferenc — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:01:04 +0000

i hope belarus or later roumania will beat the oranje like 3-0 or 4-0 and after this kind of defeat marco should blame himself and select seedorf,van nistelrooij,makaay,van bommel,davids…
for ex. landzaat plays the same role as seedorf or van bommel could – seedorf is one of the best of ac milan,van bommel will be the playmaker of bayern – milan or bayern vesus wigan athletic… only marco thinks that wigan is better
huntelaar is out of form. no problem. ruud or makaay could easily replace him.
and marco should forget vennegoor too – he doesn’t work at all. very mediocre.
janssen? i should laugh…
but even an oranje b-team should beat luxemburg 4-0,5-0. there is no excuse. marco’s selection is very bad.

By: goose

goose — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 17:36:13 +0000

The Dutch team manager couldn’t see any blame for himself. “I wouldn’t know what I did wrong. I was happy with the preparation for the game. I didn’t see this terrible performance coming…”

ofcourse he doenst blame himself, no surprise there… why doenst he understand that it is his responsebelity(?)to pick the starting 11, maybe he should consider chosing different players (like vanBommel, vanNistelrooy, Seedorf, Davids, Makaay)
he told the press he was surprised that this team could play so lousy…WELL IM NOT!!!

this reaction tells it all, vanBasten is arrogant and we all pay for it!!

greetz

WIJ HOUDEN VAN ORANJE…….. MAAR NIET ALS ZE NOG EENS ZON WEDSTRIJD SPELEN